ellebarto Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Defender 110 abused by a Pinzgauer in a Crash I’ve just come back from a full weekend of laning that nearly started in utter disaster. If you’ve seen the recent video of my vinyl wrapped Defender 110 you will know I’ve put a lot of work into it. http://youtu.be/iaKGnIoFSSE Right at the start of this trip, which was led by a Pinzgauer, the bloke driving decided to take his handbrake off and forget he had a brake pedal. It wasn’t the vehicle owner I hasten to add but someone ‘having a go’ A 3 ton Pinzgauer gun truck and a 110 don’t mix that well funnily enough! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Ouch. I didn't pause the video - but what is the damage ? And how will it be paid for ? Insurance ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellebarto Posted October 8, 2013 Author Share Posted October 8, 2013 I dont even want to ask the insurance question. I'm insured for laning as is the Pinz but I suspect as his mate was 'having a go' we might have a problem there! So far though the blokes being stand up about it and has said he will pay for all the damage. He did seem a really good guy! I reckong about £200 to the Pinz and parts alone for mine about £650 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Nightmare - I hope it all plays out in a good way for you. Re-reading my message just then - sorry if sounded nosey or blunt - I was just putting myself in your shoes and they were my first thoughts. I almost had the same situation when 110 'monster' truck ran away and would have ploughed into the back of my 90 - kudos to the owners athleticism though he managed to get in it and brake with his hand on the pedal. The only other was a scar down the side when my friend was driving. Nothing done with that. Poses the question though - what happens when there's damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellebarto Posted October 8, 2013 Author Share Posted October 8, 2013 lol. Don't worry buddy. If someone posts there prang on a forum, it has to be open season for questions!! I'm insured for greenlaning. I'd just rather sort it as mates if we possibly can! Time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverik Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Flippin heck, I've got the same winch bumper and its not faired well at all, its not a light piece of kit either... Can you see where the bumper folded out of interest? - I'd be gutted, hope you get it fixed up soon. Mav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellebarto Posted October 8, 2013 Author Share Posted October 8, 2013 Its been hit by a 3 ton plus truck with a steel nato hitch spearheading the charge. I've then gone on to complete a full weekends laning. Its done brilliantly mate. Nothing in the engine bay is damaged. I dont think you could put anything there that would take no damage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xychix Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 It's clearly the weight that does the damage! I'm still trying to get my wallet and wife to the point to buy a Defender 130, atm. driving a Ford Transit mk5 2.5di (year 1999). I was hit on the highway by a Fiat Uno at ~ 65 km/h (~40 Mph). A devestating blow, fiat leaked fluids everywhere, smoking ... completely trashed. Transit had a firm dent in the bumper that was straightened by abusing a heavy steel hammer. Good luck fixing this unfortunate event, and lucky the protective bumper and bull bar where doing their job or you'd likely have to fetch a new hood, radiator and g#d knows what more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smego Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 It will buff out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellebarto Posted October 8, 2013 Author Share Posted October 8, 2013 It will buff out. Lol, pre-vinyl wrap it might have. I'm not sure what the vinyl equivalent of biffing is!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddy Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Is duct tape a good colour match? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverik Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Its been hit by a 3 ton plus truck with a steel nato hitch spearheading the charge. I've then gone on to complete a full weekends laning. Its done brilliantly mate. Nothing in the engine bay is damaged. I dont think you could put anything there that would take no damage Fair point... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco-Ron Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 shame about the incident, was there a good reason for trying to winch it out? There's just as much chance of bending the chassis by winching at that angle as it getting hit. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellebarto Posted October 12, 2013 Author Share Posted October 12, 2013 On reflection there wasn't. It was right at the start of a laning weekend and part of me just wanted to be sure there was no serious damage behind it. Also if I'm honest, whilst I've been laning for years, I'm not the most mechanically minded and I was taking some advice from the guys on the trip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellebarto Posted October 15, 2013 Author Share Posted October 15, 2013 So I’ve been really lucky with this issue. The guy responsible eventually paid me about half the cost of the damage but then First Four off-road saw this video and have very kindly offered to help me out with a new bumper. After the original one protected me so well I’d be a fool not to take them up on that. The original one has in the meantime been fixed to a large extent and I’ve put it on ebay today, in case anyone is interested. All’s well that’s ends well I guess. Didn’t think my videos would ever get me this kind of result. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/290996651646?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Can I ask the obvious - why has he paid you half the damage ? Very nice of first four ! I've always found them very helpful - Kudos to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellebarto Posted October 15, 2013 Author Share Posted October 15, 2013 Its a bit awkward mate and I don't want to air too much dirty linen in public. Lets just say it ended on a very sour note and our opinions on the damage differed significantly. A week after the accident I was getting no-where and then when sifting through my video footage I found a camera had captured some in cab audio from the Pinzgauer and it kinda sent me over the edge! I was a bit frustrated and to amuse myself I made this comedy video which includes said audio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smego Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Why did you not just claim off the insurance? Even if the driver was not meant t be driving the owner's 3rd party liability will pay out, he and the driver will just be in the poo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellebarto Posted October 15, 2013 Author Share Posted October 15, 2013 My insurance says accidents must be reported within 48 hours. The guys in the car agreed to pay for the damage straight away and all was well on the weekend. It was only later, days later, issues arose. I have doubts about insurance companies and green lanes. I could just see me losing my no claims or something! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Did the chunky bumper damage or bend the chassis mounts in all this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSD Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 I'm right with you about insurance companies, but a greenlane is a public highway, no way they can walk away from their third party responsibility? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Haven't had chance to watch your video yet - but I'm really sorry to hear it turned sour I didn't know that about reporting an accident within 48 hours either. I wonder how that works if you're not in a position to ? Years ago I was knocked off a motorbike by a drunk driver and had a bleed on my brain. I wasn't capable of speaking to an insurance company for a lot longer than 48 hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellebarto Posted October 15, 2013 Author Share Posted October 15, 2013 I guess in that case you go with a police report as notification. Don't get me wrong I'm not 100% sure but it was an awkward situation. While there was a chance of getting cash from the driver it felt better than risking a claim and perhaps an insurance company going knock for knock. In the end I'm unlikely to be out of pocket so that's the main thing. Sad that I was let down but there you go. You live and learn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellebarto Posted October 15, 2013 Author Share Posted October 15, 2013 Did the chunky bumper damage or bend the chassis mounts in all this? The bumper rotated slightly on the chassis bolts and the A Bar bent back slightly. The winch plate also kinked a bit but it's all gonna back pretty much other than a kink in the winch plate. Plates nice and flat though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Just watched your clip. Lol. I blew up my Landy Christmas Day a couple of years back. The rocket launcher was my main present. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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