Bucky Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 So some of you will have seen me asking for help regarding disabled access to a defender. We managed to get him in and he was asking to go somewhere interesting i found a lane that on the maps that looked easy going and when we got there and started it was okay. Towards the end it got tricky and me being stupid pushed on rather than reversing back along the track. The long and short is that i got it beached. i found a local farmer who has been first class but couldn't get down with his tractor due to width but is suggesting trying a digger down there tomorrow to flatten the ruts and pull me out. If that doesnt work the only other thing i can think of is a recovery company, ive found one http://www.beechesrecovery.co.uk/Specialist-Recovery-Services.html who seem like they might be a go and are local to me, has anyone used them before? Also has anyone got any other suggestions or know of any other companies? I realise ive been a daft sod and wont be doing it again any time soon. Just need to get this situation resolved as soon as. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orgasmic Farmer Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 A rough location as to where you are stuck might help people decide if they can do anything??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucky Posted March 22, 2014 Author Share Posted March 22, 2014 yeah sorry long day, it's stuck out near Elford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 As above a idea of location may get some more help,if I was closer aI would help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncmc Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 I can't help I'm afraid as I don't have a 4x4 on the road. Is it the Elford to the east of Lichfield? If you can't get assistance to get a pull out backwards.... How about jacking wheels up, and digging out the offending section of earth underneath with a long handled shovel? Do you have a high lift jack? I would be careful though with one of those, obviously you don't want to be crawling underneath without axle stands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 What is the vehicle? If it's the elford near Lichfield/tamworth then I can come over and give you a tug out today. But if you're stuck in a vehicle with twin lockers, portal axles and 40" tyres I'm probably not gonna be any use. If you're driving a standard 110 on 7.50 road tyres then I can potentially help I have a 90 with 36" mud terrains, no winch fitted, open diffs, no front recovery/tow point, just a nato on the back. Do you have a rope, or winch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncmc Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 It must be the Elford near Tamworth and Lichfield. A search in Google maps only comes up with that one, and a search in Trailwise only shows the one BOAT. There is a shorter UCR up near the National Air Arboretum, but that is Alrewas - and its a dead end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 There is an elford Northumberland listed on trailwise Edit: just realised his location is Walsall so it stands a good chance of being elford staffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 And that my friend is why you should never go out on your own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucky Posted March 23, 2014 Author Share Posted March 23, 2014 And that my friend is why you should never go out on your own. Aye like i said i've been a daft sod, won't be doing anything quite so stupid anytime soon, but i will try and provide you with some photos when it's sorted I can't help I'm afraid as I don't have a 4x4 on the road. Is it the Elford to the east of Lichfield? If you can't get assistance to get a pull out backwards.... How about jacking wheels up, and digging out the offending section of earth underneath with a long handled shovel? Do you have a high lift jack? I would be careful though with one of those, obviously you don't want to be crawling underneath without axle stands. yeah thats an idea i had yesterday will take a shovel n other bits and bobs when head up there What is the vehicle? If it's the elford near Lichfield/tamworth then I can come over and give you a tug out today. But if you're stuck in a vehicle with twin lockers, portal axles and 40" tyres I'm probably not gonna be any use. If you're driving a standard 110 on 7.50 road tyres then I can potentially help I have a 90 with 36" mud terrains, no winch fitted, open diffs, no front recovery/tow point, just a nato on the back. Do you have a rope, or winch? My defenders standard just on 265/75/16 mt. there's some strong rope in the back of it, i can get hold of a trifor but atm there's nothing to anchor to. It must be the Elford near Tamworth and Lichfield. A search in Google maps only comes up with that one, and a search in Trailwise only shows the one BOAT. There is a shorter UCR up near the National Air Arboretum, but that is Alrewas - and its a dead end. It's elford near Lichfield down willow bottom lane, hopefully when i ring the farmer at 10.30 he will have some good news but if not any offers of help are greatly received. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eightpot Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 If your axles have grounded and you have a hi-lift jack, lifting each wheel clear and making a new short stretch of raised track underneath each wheel with rocks/stones/bricks/branches or just more earth should get axles out of the dirt and give you enough run backwards to get back some momentum back onto good ground. Back breaking work though.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucky Posted March 23, 2014 Author Share Posted March 23, 2014 No high lift unfortunately just whats standard for a defender. i tried wedging logs under yesterday, but the wheels can only be a few mm from the ground so couldn't get them under, hopefully the jack ive got will give me enough clearance if all else fails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eightpot Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Well hopefully you can get a tow, but if not you're going to have to remove the dirt between the wheel ruts from the front axle back to good ground so you're not anchoring yourself. People pay to get a workout like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucky Posted March 23, 2014 Author Share Posted March 23, 2014 aye will collect some tools from my work today on the way up and see what can be done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncmc Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Good luck. If you haven't got a Defender ratchet jack, you can use a bottle jack with a packing piece of wood on the wheel rim to lift a wheel. Then as said above dig the edge of the rut in, and fill in the bottom of the rut. Do that on each corner. And keep at it. You will also have to clear the path backwards from where you are so you can move without just getting restuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucky Posted March 23, 2014 Author Share Posted March 23, 2014 Thats good advice cheers, just spoke to the farmer whos got his digger down to the landy, so all being well when i get there it should sortable. Cheers guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missingsid Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 So some of you will have seen me asking for help regarding disabled access to a defender. We managed to get him in and he was asking to go somewhere interesting i found a lane that on the maps that looked easy going and when we got there and started it was okay. Towards the end it got tricky and me being stupid pushed on rather than reversing back along the track. The long and short is that i got it beached. i found a local farmer who has been first class but couldn't get down with his tractor due to width but is suggesting trying a digger down there tomorrow to flatten the ruts and pull me out. If that doesnt work the only other thing i can think of is a recovery company, ive found one http://www.beechesrecovery.co.uk/Specialist-Recovery-Services.html who seem like they might be a go and are local to me, has anyone used them before? Also has anyone got any other suggestions or know of any other companies? I realise ive been a daft sod and wont be doing it again any time soon. Just need to get this situation resolved as soon as. Cheers Glad you're sorted, what happened to the passenger? If he is disabled how did he get out and home? Out in a two vehicle convoy and got beached, still difficult to get off and no hi-lift, used my steel ammo box and a long branch to lift each side to add wood under the wheels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucky Posted March 23, 2014 Author Share Posted March 23, 2014 We did a two man lift to get him out last night, carried him up the track. Then caught a lift with a family member. The landys out and home now, just been jetwashing the mud off. Cheers for all your help as always guys, i think next time i'll look for a organised trip!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncmc Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 When I used to go out driving the unsurfaced roads, I always used to go prepared. I did venture out on my own, but I always drove lanes that I knew. Even then I got caught out a couple of times. I always carried a high lift jack, a tirfor winch, ropes, strops, blocks of wood, an axe, a bow saw, spade, and two waffles. So, I could get myself out of trouble. Much easier of course if in convoy. Glad to hear that you are out and home. That lane always looks nice and easy from the Elford end. I have driven and cycled past it loads, but never been down it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 All's well that ends well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Can anyone show me on a map where this lane starts/ends? I'm interested in giving it a go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucky Posted March 24, 2014 Author Share Posted March 24, 2014 https://mapsengine.google.com/map/edit?mid=zDHdkQBam7oQ.k8hDkbAeRAGg thats it, i got most of the way in a unmodified 90 running 265/75/16 mt but since then a digger has been down plus a couple of tractors so it may be worse in places, it may be better. It was also heavily overgrown when i went down but i know some of that has been cleared. Hope that helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Sparkes Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 The name seems to be recorded on the OS maps, and Trailwise, as Willow Bottom Lane (not Winter Bottom Lane as in the Google map referenced in the previous post, which does however show the correct route. It is shown on Trailwise under two references: SK2008-01 is the short straight section, at the SE end, including the railway bridge. SK1909-01 is the bulk of the lane. While the comments on Trailwise are old, they don't encourage tackling it as a single vehicle. Staffordshire doesn't have a GLASS Area Organiser, but if a local GLASS member could visit and update Trailwise it would be a very useful service to the community. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucky Posted March 24, 2014 Author Share Posted March 24, 2014 Your right as far as i know it's willow bottom lane, my mistake in naming the map Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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