Ozyboy Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 Not sure how to make this clicky..... http://www.mattracks.com/ Cheers Oz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill van snorkle Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 They would be ok in snow, but LandRovers own cross country testing of similar but larger and heavier conversions by Cuthbertson in Scotland revealed that the small bogie wheels would burrow under obstacles such as steep banks etc, rather than climb up and over. Their solution to crosscountry mobility culminated in a LWB series 2 Landy fitted with wider stronger axles with hub reduction (not portal) gearing and 10.00/11.00 x 28'' tractor tyres. The vehicle was built by the then famous Roadless Traction LTD) in Hounslough and was known as the Forest Rover. Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Freak Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 I bet those tracks would be a nightmare on the M4... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Member Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 Yes.... I have seen them on full sized pickup trucks at the local ski hills. Very expensive and not overly practical. I see they make smaller versions now though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budgie Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 Lix Toll Garage in Killin, Perthshire, have one of the original Cuthbertson Series IIa's (not for sale though I don't think). It's on the front page of their website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeagent Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 landrover had a 110 fitted with those mattrax things at the LRO show last year, i think it was one built for raldolf fiennes.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill van snorkle Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 The idea needs a little more development before becoming a viable solution to the question of crosscountry mobility. The forward bogie wheels of the tracks of a high mobility tank for example, are positioned several feet off the ground to assist in surmounting vertical or other high obstacles and prevent the afore mentioned burrowing under. Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bathtub Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 Not sure how to make this clicky..... http://www.mattracks.com/ Cheers Oz Surely decent axles 44" Boggers at 3psi would be as big & work a lot better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 im confused, the site says they are suitable for trucks up to 1 1/2 ton - then has a pic of a hummer running them? as its a good excuse i'll post these pics, i think the 2nd one is the famous 'roadless tracton' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill van snorkle Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 im confused, the site says they are suitable for trucks up to 1 1/2 ton - then has a pic of a hummer running them?as its a good excuse i'll post these pics, i think the 2nd one is the famous 'roadless tracton' Gotta love that Roadless. If I haven't misread the Mattrax spec sheet you have to stop every 5 to 15 miles to let the tracks cool off if operating in ambient temperatures of 80 degrees F or higher. No good for desert work then? Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Member Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 im confused, the site says they are suitable for trucks up to 1 1/2 ton - then has a pic of a hummer running them?as its a good excuse i'll post these pics, i think the 2nd one is the famous 'roadless tracton' By 1 1/2 tons....they don't mean the weight of the truck. It is a strange North American rating system for load capaicties. A "1 ton" truck is like a Ford F350. An F150 is a "1/2 ton" and a F250 is a "3/4 ton". These can normally carry around 2 tons though, so it is a strange screwy system....but everyone here "knows" what it means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Member Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 Gotta love that Roadless. If I haven't misread the Mattrax spec sheet you have to stop every 5 to 15 miles to let the tracks cool off if operating in ambient temperatures of 80 degrees F or higher. No good for desert work then?Bill. They are meant for snow Bill. Despite the "other" pictures, that is the only point. As I stated, they are not very practical for the reasons you have stated even on snow. If there is really too much snow for a wheeled vehicle, you need a proper tracked snow vehicle. You can never get low enough ground pressure with wheels or these Mattracks to drive on top of snow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 ahh so thats something else the yanks get wrong then, surprise surprise. shouldnt surprise me really, they dont even know how big a gallon is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicksmelly Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 And what this "Aluminum" they keep going on about, and "Nucular"??? Are they rebelling against our Queens English? On topic, I want a Roadless... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 i want these Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill van snorkle Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 i want these Those Landeys look terribly unstable and difficult to get in and out of. Surely Cuthbertson could have relocated the drive sprocket lower down between the bogie wheels, and provided a climbing gantry to assist in entry and exit. Is the bus an old J model Bedford ? Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 no idea about any of that Bill, just stole the pics off the web. landys just look cool cause they are so different & the bus well, when you drive coaches for a living its nice to see one worth driving Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siearl Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Be interesting how you would change the "tyres" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill van snorkle Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Be interesting how you would change the "tyres" The early Cuthbertson conversions had pneumatic tyres that suffered numerous punctures, so later on they began fitting solids. There were only about 20 vehicles converted in all. Apparently in addition to the other series Landy weaknesses they used to eat clutch assemblies for breakfast. Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Boy Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 The cape to cape expedition is using some for their arctic leg, but they have some video of testing it on grass etc. seems surprisingly useable, given that it must kill the already naf turning circle. Cape to Cape Expedition Video of tracks in use And yes, the Fiennes Expedition was supposed to use them. Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 i wonder what speed rating those tracks are? nice vid, but it didnt look like the 90 was trying to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Member Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 Here you go, a local contender. Watch the video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Member Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 Here is a thread on Pirate on making your own..... Go on Bill have some fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 Dunsfold are selling a S1 Cuthbertson, needs a bit of renovation though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Br00n1e Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 Lix Toll Garage in Killin, Perthshire, have one of the original Cuthbertson Series IIa's (not for sale though I don't think). It's on the front page of their website. They have had it parked at the side of the road for years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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