Gromit Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 Hello All, With winter on our doorstep, I've finally got myself an ebby D1LC. I didn't realise they were so big! So, where should I put it in my 110 CSW, or where have you put yours? Pictures of your installation would be cool. First place that springs to mind is under the second row seats but which way should it be pointing? I don't have any ducting, so it'll be sucking its air from the cab - ok in a breezy 110 I reckon The cable run to the rheostat is only about a foot long, so I guess I'll have to chop and extend it to mount it somewhere on the dash. If I buy one of the 7 day programable timer, can it just be plugged into the heater's loom? Looking forward to your input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 This might help D1LC heater lucky boy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul64 Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 What is the point of this bit of kit? It looks impressive, but is it simply a heater for cold camping conditions independent of the engine? Or is it some sort of engine pre heater for staring in extremely cold weather? Cheers, Paul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 Hello All,With winter on our doorstep, I've finally got myself an ebby D1LC. I didn't realise they were so big! So, where should I put it in my 110 CSW, or where have you put yours? Pictures of your installation would be cool. First place that springs to mind is under the second row seats but which way should it be pointing? I don't have any ducting, so it'll be sucking its air from the cab - ok in a breezy 110 I reckon The cable run to the rheostat is only about a foot long, so I guess I'll have to chop and extend it to mount it somewhere on the dash. If I buy one of the 7 day programable timer, can it just be plugged into the heater's loom? Looking forward to your input hi gromit i've had a D1LC in my csw for a couple of years now and i love it. mounted it infront of the middle 2nd row seat, just behind the cubby box. i took some photo's for someone on another forum but have not figured how post em yet. but i'll have another go for ya.dunno if thats it. anyway there was a good reason for putting it there and not under the seat but i can't rememember what it was. seat would not tip or fouled exhaust or something. also fitting it where i did means you can duct the small 1" take off into the drivers footwell if you want or even into the engine compartment. fraid i cn't help with the wiring as mine was pre wired to a rheostat with a timer. hope this helps paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul64 Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 hi gromit i've had a D1LC in my csw for a couple of years now and i love it. mounted it infront of the middle 2nd row seat, just behind the cubby box. i took some photo's for someone on another forum but have not figured how post em yet. but i'll have another go for ya.dunno if thats it. anyway there was a good reason for putting it there and not under the seat but i can't rememember what it was. seat would not tip or fouled exhaust or something. also fitting it where i did means you can duct the small 1" take off into the drivers footwell if you want or even into the engine compartment. fraid i cn't help with the wiring as mine was pre wired to a rheostat with a timer.hope this helps paul Sort of. You have all your seats in so its not for camping. So whats the point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesm Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 If I buy one of the 7 day programable timer, can it just be plugged into the heater's loom?Not necessarily. I have a D1LC and a timer (which I think is 7 day - still haven't got round to installing either of them), and neither the plug nor the wiring colours match up. I believe the newer models have the control box built into the main body of the heater, and would guess that the wiring changed at the same time.We had quite a long discussion about where to locate the heaters on the old forum, and the conclusion was that putting them under the second row of seats works well. However, I carry a load of junk around in my rear passenger footwells so I've been toying with the idea of removing a load area seatbase and installing the heater on one of the wheelboxes where it's less likely to find an aerosol can to snuggle up with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesm Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 So whats the point?Tdi Defenders have lousy heaters! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul64 Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 Tdi Defenders have lousy heaters! I get it. I thought it was something to do with when parked and running independently of the engine. So it is a supplement to the existing heater? I have a Tdi Defender, and mine is warm and toasty inside. No modification noted. So is it because not all Defender heaters are the same, or is it simply that I am harder than you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesm Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 or is it simply that I am harder than you? Quite possibly. I've heard stories about it being possible to make the heater work by adjusting the cables correctly, but never believed them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 I get it. I thought it was something to do with when parked and running independently of the engine. So it is a supplement to te existing heater.I have a Tdi Defender, and mine is warm and toasty inside. No modification noted. So is it because not all Defender heaters are the same, or is it simply that I am harder than you? you're obviously much harder than me! i leave mine running all winter, never any ice on my windows! and i don't care how good your heater is it won't warm anyone sat in the back! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul64 Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 you're obviously much harder than me! i leave mine running all winter, never any ice on my windows! and i don't care how good your heater is it won't warm anyone sat in the back! I do like the idea of it. Getting into a warm vehicle with no ice on it. We tend to have colder winters over here in Germany, so would be useful. What do they tend to retail at? I would have to get it fitted, as it sounds a bit too technical for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Freak Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 Paul.... Just wear double layers of Lederhosen.... Have a hot blonde beside you and you won't worry about the temperature, hot or cold... Me, I just jump in the A6 with heated seats when it's cold ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 Tdi Defenders have lousy heaters! only if the control cables & flaps are incorrectly set, my heater works fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglo-Frenchman Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 Hi Ralph, Out of interest is there a correct way to set up the cables and flaps to ensure optimum operation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjojjas Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 wouldn't be a lot of point for me, I only close the drivers window when its raining heavy or above 30mph. ps, I also find that on long journeys its those in the rear complaining about the heat building up in the 110. It does take a while to build up though!! Jas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 Hi Ralph,Out of interest is there a correct way to set up the cables and flaps to ensure optimum operation? only as per the workshop manual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul64 Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 Paul....Just wear double layers of Lederhosen.... Have a hot blonde beside you and you won't worry about the temperature, hot or cold... Me, I just jump in the A6 with heated seats when it's cold ! Yeah! I have just bought an XC70. Just can't get the wife out of it! I think this heater is a good idea. I am a bit more into the travel adventure side of LR rather than the technical. So something like this in Scandanavia would be great. I have friends in Norway and Sweden, so got to get a trip in before we return to the UK maybe next year??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Freak Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 So would you fit one just for one trip or just tell the missus to breathe harder and warm the car up.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul64 Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 She wouldn't be coming with me! Come on get a grip. Me and Mr Garspar would be going as we always do. However, for longer more extended trips in colder climates this is a good idea. As I have no leaks in my LR, this device would not cause condensation either! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR90 Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 Eberspacher's are great. Nats pee of fuel, an old battery and you can keep your workshop warm Waited to get a diesel LR to fit one to and now have a D1LC (handy link Ralph) and the TDi but yet to fit it as I tend not to overnight in the 90. Defender heaters are definately better than my old 2A's but they do get clogged with mud, leaves and things I'm not sure I'd want to recognise which rather reduces effectivness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 I hope to get a Ebby or Webasto version soon, their ideal for keeping me & engine warm when sat on standby on a rally event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happyoldgit Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 They're good. New parts are stupidly expensive and I've found they sometimes don't like long periods of standing idle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromit Posted November 28, 2006 Author Share Posted November 28, 2006 thanks all for the suggestions and Ralph for the manual - makes things a bit clearer. Now on the lookout for a programmable timer, and some warmer whether in which to fit the heater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siearl Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 As I have no leaks in my LR, this device would not cause condensation either! No leaks you are just not trying hard enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 thanks all for the suggestions and Ralph for the manual - makes things a bit clearer. Now on the lookout for a programmable timer, and some warmer whether in which to fit the heater Ebby timers on Ebay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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