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The order process and configurator is supposedly open, but it keeps crashing on me. I'll have another go later tonight. The helpline staff are a bit swamped; I think they have been overwhelmed with the number of people who jumped on, all at once this morning.

My garage keeps having young rats come in, chew the silver foil in the recycling bin and then die horribly in my SVO funnel. They avoid the traps and just get trapped in the tractor funnel.

Very nearly; I have just reformatted it after going back to the original .pdf "UK/Europe/Middle East/ANZ: Five years / unlimited mileage Africa: Five years / 100,000 km North America: Five years / 60,000 miles Globally, the Grenadier will come with a three-year paint warranty, a three-year warranty for accessories, and the ladder-frame chassis and body components will have a 12-year anti- perforation warranty." They seem bullish about it's prospects in rough country, hence the 2.7 tonnes weight and the £60k bills! Certainly the axles and chassis would not look out of place under a military truck or locomotive.

Press release, April 29th 2022 - what is in most of the car press. "INEOS Grenadier starts at £49,000 with a simple model line-up available to order from 18 May Grenadier launches with two-seat Utility Wagon and five-seat Station Wagon configurations The Grenadier is a highly capable workhorse with permanent four-wheel drive, two- speed transfer case and centre locking differential included as standard Standard Grenadier is a stripped back, no nonsense workhorse ready to be configured to owners’ exact needs Belstaff-inspired Grenadier Trialmaster and Grenadier Fieldmaster Editions are configured with specific purposes in mind A wide range of options and accessories allow for all versions to be customised Order books, online configurator and customer contact centre all go live on 18 May Orders can be finalised with retailers, or direct with INEOS in major launch markets Comprehensive aftersales package will provide customers with total peace-of-mind London, 29 April 2022 - The Grenadier is a modern, workhorse 4X4 designed, engineered and built to world-class standards. Starting from £49,000 RRP in the UK, its simple model line-up provides the basis for buyers to easily select and configure their perfect Grenadier with a wide range of options and accessories. A WORKHORSE VEHICLE WITH COMFORT AND REFINEMENT AS STANDARD The Grenadier is available as a two-seat Utility Wagon and a five-seat Station Wagon. The Grenadier Utility Wagon variant is a blank canvas ready to be configured for the exact needs of customers. It is built for those needing a stripped back, no nonsense workhorse, but still with the comfort, refinement and standard features that today’s drivers expect. Designed to carry loads, the Utility Wagon has two seats, and is certified as a commercial vehicle. It comes with a full-height cargo barrier and a full-length flat floor capable of taking a standard Euro pallet (1,200mm x 800mm). Customers can opt for a rear side window instead of the standard blank panel at no extra cost. The standard five-seat Grenadier Station Wagon is also certified as a commercial vehicle and is fitted with a cargo barrier, to provide the optimum balance between payload and passenger carrying capability. Two further five-seat Station Wagon Belstaff editions have a greater emphasis on passenger comfort than load space capacity, with more knee room for second row passengers compared with the standard five-seater. HIGH-SPEC BELSTAFF EDITIONS: FOR EVERY ADVENTURE In addition to the standard specification Grenadier, INEOS Automotive also offers two pre- configured vehicle editions that reflect Belstaff’s and INEOS Automotive’s shared philosophy for producing authentic, uncompromising products that are engineered to last. Creating premium outerwear since 1924, Belstaff is known for its iconic waxed cotton jackets and its pioneering and progressive spirit. The Grenadier Trialmaster and Fieldmaster Editions, which can be selected on the non- commercial five-seat Station Wagon, have both been curated with specific purposes in mind and are built to take on the outdoors. The Trialmaster Edition has been specified with extreme off-roading in mind. It is named after the iconic Belstaff Trialmaster Jacket, which was created in 1948 at the request of professional Trials biker and Irishman, Sammy Miller, and was designed to cope with the gruelling conditions of the Scottish Six Days Trial. While the Grenadier Trialmaster Edition also gets the Smooth Pack features, it has an entirely different personality thanks in part to the additional Rough Pack. This adds front and rear diff locks and the BFGoodrich All-Terrain T/A KO2 tyres. With functionality and versatility the top priority, the Grenadier Trialmaster Edition also gets a host of additional practical kit, including a raised air intake, exterior utility belts, and an auxiliary battery. This is the Grenadier for customers that are passionate about hardcore off-roading and tackling the toughest terrain on the most extreme expeditions. The Grenadier Fieldmaster Edition is named after the iconic Belstaff Fieldmaster Jacket, which is designed for life in the outdoors. It is specified for those with an adventure lifestyle who will use their vehicle to get them and their kit to wherever they want to go. It comes with the Smooth Pack, a collection of comfort and convenience features that makes the Grenadier even easier to use in every situation. It includes a rear-view camera, puddle lamps, power heated door mirrors and auxiliary USB power outlets. Other additional premium enhancements include 17-inch alloy wheels (with the option to upgrade to 18-inch alloy wheels), Safari Windows, leather upholstery, carpet floor mats and heated front seats. Whether towing a horsebox, hauling kayaks to the river, or going wild camping, the Grenadier Fieldmaster Edition makes outdoor adventures even more accessible. CUSTOMISATION FOR ALL All versions of the Grenadier are uncompromising, highly capable 4X4 vehicles. Even the standard Utility Wagon models offer everything most users will need: peerless off-roading capability, refined on-road driveability, and a functional, modern, comfortable interior. But every customer is unique, so every Grenadier can be customised to suit the specific role they will play for their owner. From launch, INEOS will offer a wide range of factory-fit options, the pre-packaged Rough and Smooth options packs, and an extensive choice of accessories. An open-source approach means customers can affix existing kit, and pre-wired electric access points mean fitting lights and other powered accessories is straightforward. SIMPLIFIED ORDERING PROCESS Order books and an enhanced online configurator go live from 18 May. While thousands of reservists around the world have priority to secure their build slot, anyone in the launch markets* can configure and order their Grenadier. The online configurator at ineosgrenadier.com takes customers through the build of their perfect Grenadier, step-by-step, and for customers in most major launch markets, the vehicle price updates in real time†. An online finance calculator† is part of the process, too, and through a partnership with Auto Trader, customers can get an indication of what the part exchange valuation could be for their current car, prior to inspection by a sales agent. With transparency and no negotiation with dealers to worry about, the price shown on the configurator is the price customers will pay. Once they’ve settled on their configuration, customers will be able to choose their collection location – an interactive map showing nearest retailers will be available on the website. A deposit payment of £2,500 – refundable until the vehicle contract is signed – secures a build slot. CUSTOMER SERVICE FOR EVERY STEP INEOS Automotive has opened its UK-based customer contact centre to support those just beginning to learn about the Grenadier as well as those who need help as they finalise their order. Customers can get in touch by phone, email, and via live webchats. The English and German desks are open from 7am to 7pm on weekdays. Italian, Spanish and French speaking support staff are available between 8am and 5pm. From 3 May, the English service will be available 24/7, German will be available between 7am and 7pm weekdays and 8am-4pm on weekends. The Italian, Spanish and French language service will be available between 8am and 5pm, Monday to Friday. All times are BST. TOTAL SUPPORT FOR OWNERS By removing unnecessary complexity, stripping back electronics and providing accessible information, there’s less to go wrong and, if it does, it’s easy to fix. From the full box-section ladder frame to the corrosion-resistant and galvanised body, every component on the Grenadier is engineered for strength and built to last. INEOS has taken the best possible engine, gearbox, axle and transfer case combination for the Grenadier and specifically tuned them to accomplish the task in hand. Service, parts and manuals Once they’ve taken delivery of their Grenadier, customers will have the reassurance of comprehensive aftersales support from INEOS. Retailers will be the backbone of the service network, providing maintenance, repair and parts. Additional geographical coverage will be provided by hand-picked INEOS-accredited Bosch Car Service and independent 4X4 specialist workshops. The aim is for most customers to always be within 45 minutes of an authorised service point. ‘Flying Spanner’ technicians from INEOS HQ are on-call if the service network needs additional support. Roadside assistance will also be included as standard with every Grenadier. For all owners, help will never be far away. INEOS Automotive recommends a regular 12-month servicing interval for the Grenadier; or six-month servicing for continuous tough environments. For owners who want to carry out work on their Grenadier themselves, INEOS will provide online 3D interactive manuals with support from the technical team at INEOS HQ just a call or a click away. The vehicle has been deliberately designed and engineered to be easy to work on inside and out. The INEOS-accredited service network will hold stock of common parts to ensure customers can get back on the road quickly. Any parts that aren’t on the shelf in the network will be dispatched from a 6,000m2 global parts hub in Belgium by express courier. After 1.1 million miles of testing and development, INEOS is confident in the Grenadier’s durability and reliability. So, it provides the peace-of-mind of a comprehensive warranty. Complete vehicle warranty provision is as follows: UK/Europe/Middle East/ANZ: Five years / unlimited mileage Africa: Five years / 100,000 km North America: Five years / 60,000 miles Globally, the Grenadier will come with a three-year paint warranty, a three-year warranty for accessories, and the ladder-frame chassis and body components will have a 12-year anti- perforation warranty. *Launch markets are: Europe: United Kingdom, Germany, France, Spain, Italy, Austria, Belgium, Czech Republic, Denmark, Finland, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Sweden, Switzerland Sub-Sahara Africa: South Africa, Namibia, Botswana APAC: Australia, New Zealand MENA: Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Bahrain, Egypt, Morocco † Full pricing in the online configurator and finance tool is available for customers in: Europe: United Kingdom, Germany, France, Spain, Italy and Austria Sub-Sahara Africa: South Africa APAC: Australia, New Zealand INEOS GRENADIER - BUILT ON PURPOSE The Grenadier is a built-on-purpose 4X4, with serious off-road capability, designed to prioritise function over form. It features award-winning engines, a ladder-frame chassis, permanent four-wheel-drive, up to three locking differentials and solid beam axles. Learning from the best off-roaders of the past and partnering with world-leading suppliers, INEOS Automotive has designed a true utilitarian workhorse that’s comfortable,practical, durable and reliable, meeting the expectations of the 21st century 4X4 driver. TIMELESS EASY-TO-READ DESIGN The Grenadier is a modern, functional and highly capable 4X4 vehicle with utility at its core. The design is ‘easy-to-read’, with no ambiguity about the vehicle’s role – it's there to do everything the owner needs and nothing is for show. Starting from a clean sheet, there is no compromise on any angle. The result is a timeless form, dictated by the purpose of the vehicle. It is an honest design, evocative of the iconic 4X4s of the past: boxy to maximise space efficiency; wheels positioned far into the corners of the chassis for off-road capability; straightforward, simple lines punctuated only by practical features and no superficial styling. Round lamps at the front and rear imply the strength of a solid tube running from front to back. The front lamp clusters are the same units on the left and the right, making service and parts availability easier; similarly, the rear lamps are a common unit. The centre LED auxiliary high beam lights (included as standard) are integrated into the front grille and provide an extra 1,080 lumens when off-road. The flat front wings are ideal for resting kit on. The belt line along the bodysides is functional – bump strips are included as standard, or the optional utility belt can be added for attaching a raft of accessories. POWERTRAIN FOR TACKLING EVERY EVENTUALITY The Grenadier has been designed to be as fun to drive on the road as it is off. Pairing award-winning engines with a renowned transmission, the two have been tuned and calibrated to ensure great driveability on any road – from city streets and motorways to twisty mountain tracks. Award-winning BMW power The Grenadier has been developed to be refined on the road and extraordinarily capable off-road. Reliable and durable engines and a proven transmission have been tuned and calibrated specifically for the Grenadier. Whatever its intended use, Grenadier owners need unquestionable reliability from the powertrain. So, INEOS Automotive hand-picked the best suppliers from the automotive industry and took their quality components through an arduous testing regime of 1.1 million miles, in all climates, in all conditions, across all terrains. The Grenadier is powered by a choice of two straight-six, 3.0-litre BMW engines. Both the BMW B57 diesel and B58 petrol powertrains have a proven track record, regularly appearing in top ten world’s best engine lists since 2016. They have been used in everything from sports cars to SUVs. The two power units bring BMW’s sophistication and refinement to the Grenadier, but they have been enhanced by INEOS Automotive’s engineering team. As well as providing powerful acceleration on tarmac, they also deliver peak torque at low revs – sustaining it through the rev range – for optimal off-road performance. The carefully calibrated characteristics help the driver to confidently manage the vehicle’s momentum and grip without stressing the engine, ensuring full control when tackling tricky terrain. The refined turbo petrol engine produces 286PS (210kW) and 450Nm (332 lb ft) of torque, while the twin-turbo diesel generates 249PS (183kW) and 550Nm (406 lb ft), for even greater pulling power. Start/stop is built-in, increasing range and preserving air quality when the vehicle is stationary. Every Grenadier variant can be powered by either the petrol or the diesel engine (depending on markets), and the selection doesn’t affect the vehicle price. Whichever is chosen, the Grenadier’s engine is paired with an eight-speed automatic gearbox from industry leader, ZF. With an impressive track record since hitting the market in 2008, and with generational updates to improve performance, ZF8HP transmissions enjoy wide use in the automotive industry. Providing smooth multi-gear shifts in under 200ms and ensuring constant power to the wheels, the renowned transmission extracts maximum engine performance with virtually seamless shifts to maintain momentum. For drivers who wish to take control, manual mode can be selected. Designed to always select the right gear, it effortlessly adapts to whatever terrain the Grenadier is tackling. Enhanced with a heavy-duty torque converter, proven by the Grenadier’s extreme testing programme, it’s tuned for all conditions, simplifies off-road driving, and offers an ‘eyes on the trail, hands on the wheel’ experience. Two-speed transfer case and permanent four-wheel drive The Grenadier is only offered with permanent four-wheel-drive to ensure reliable and instant traction on any surface. This level of traction is made possible thanks to a two-speed transfer case from industry leader, Tremec, alongside CV joints and propshafts from automotive specialist, Dana Spicer. The durable, manually-operated two-speed transfer case has a built-in centre differential which is lockable in both high and low range. Manufactured by Tremec, but designed by INEOS Automotive, it’s been tested in the harshest environments and its low-range ratio of 2.5:1 provides greater precision, control and increased torque. Featuring an external oil cooling system, it’s been optimised to ensure smooth running and reliability in all conditions. Up to three differential locks for ultimate traction As well as the centre locking differential in the transfer case, two optional electronically actuated diff locks are available, front and rear, with 100% mechanical engagement. The front and rear diff locks can be independently toggled from the overhead control panel and automatically disengage at 75km/h to protect the drivetrain. Manufactured by Eaton Industries, the front and rear diff locks are standard on the Trialmaster trim, and optional on all others. OFF-ROAD GEOMETRY The Grenadier is designed to be a capable off-road workhorse. To meet this requirement, a wheel at each corner ensures short overhangs front and rear, a ladder-frame chassis offers excellent ground clearance, while a high engine air intake offers confidence when wading through water. • Ground clearance: 264mm • Wading depth: 800mm • Approach angle: 35.5 ̊ • Breakover angle: 28.2 ̊ • Departure angle: 36.1 ̊ Box-section ladder frame chassis The foundation of the Grenadier is a full box-section ladder frame chassis. Simple, strong and stable, it’s designed to withstand daily punishment in all conditions, mile after mile. Its steel section is up to 3.5mm thick for outstanding rigidity and stiffness. Maximum protection against corrosion comes from a full E-coat treatment, internal cavity wax application and an exterior powder coat. Paying testament to the brand’s confidence in its durability, the ladder-frame is backed by INEOS Automotive’s class-leading 12-year, anti-perforation warranty. Solid beam axles for optimum strength Heavy-duty beam axles are essential for tackling extreme off-road terrain and carrying heavy loads. By channelling power from the Grenadier’s propshafts via a 4:1 differential ratio to the wheels, they ensure maximum traction on any surface. Developed in partnership with Carraro – an expert with over 50 years' experience making heavy-duty tractor axles for the likes of John Deere and Claas – they’re strong, straightforward, and built to last. Ultimate underride protection INEOS Automotive has designed the Grenadier to handle the most extreme environments, and inevitable impacts. The Grenadier’s standard underride protection includes front and rear skid plates as well as fuel tank protection. It’s key to keeping the vehicle going, ensuring the Grenadier’s essential components are shielded when working off-road. The high-quality powder coat finish also safeguards the Grenadier’s underride protection against stone chips and off-road scrapes. PRECISION HANDLING FOR ON- AND OFF-ROAD Off road, the Grenadier pulls no punches. While it’s every inch a rugged 4X4, it ticks all the right boxes on the road, too. The chassis combines a five-link suspension setup with Brembo brakes and Bridgestone tyres, meaning the Grenadier is composed, well- mannered and fun to drive no matter what the terrain. The Grenadier is equally at home on the road as it is off-road. Core to this is its suspension design, featuring progressive springs, anti-roll bars, and a five-link setup, which combine to provide dynamic handling and a comfortable ride, whatever the load. The Grenadier’s coil springs are made by suspension specialists, Eibach, offering superior flex with nine degrees of front axle articulation and 12 degrees at the rear. Enabling more than 600mm of travel to maintain grip and make light work of driving over extreme uneven ground, they’re low maintenance, lightweight, durable and generate minimal friction. The Grenadier features a highly responsive brake system, with disks, pads and callipers all supplied by industry leader, Brembo. Together, the components ensure impressive stopping power, even with a gross train mass (the combined fully laden vehicle and trailer weight) of up to seven tonnes. Proven in extreme conditions during prototype testing, the Brembo setup is perfect for the Grenadier. INEOS Automotive’s winter-rated Bridgestone Dueler All-Terrain 001 tyres with 3-Peak Mountain Snowflake (3PMSF) certification ensure the Grenadier drives as well off-road as it does on it, with a bespoke tread designed for the Grenadier to perform in both snow and mud. Improved grip, control and comfort in the toughest conditions, the Bridgestone Duelers ensure all the stopping power from the Brembo brakes transfers straight to the road, in all conditions. For extreme terrain or challenging conditions, drivers can choose the more aggressive tread of the optional BFGoodrich All-Terrain T/A KO2 tyres. All tyres have strong, deep reinforced sidewalls for added puncture resistance, plus tyre pressure monitoring as standard. The Grenadier rides on traditional, hard-wearing 17-inch steel wheels as standard, with 18- inch steel, 17-inch alloy and 18-inch alloy options available. All use a six-stud pattern with a 130mm Pitch Circle Diameter (PCD), and are available with both Bridgestone and BFGoodrich tyres. Owners can also choose locking wheel nuts to keep the wheels secure. Selectable driving modes for precision driving Key convenience and safety features developed for on-road driving can be redundant off- road. That’s why the Grenadier features an Off-Road Mode to disable parking sensors, seatbelt reminders and engine start-stop. The integrated Wading Mode ensures the vehicle is optimally set up for wading, including monitoring engine temperature and disabling the engine fan when safe to do so. For maximum confidence when off-road, the central touchscreen displays relevant information for the driver, including vehicle attitude, steering angle, system temperatures and drivetrain utilisation. Downhill Assist dynamically brakes individual wheels to enhance control of the Grenadier on extreme descents. Uphill Assist, meanwhile, automatically holds the Grenadier in position after the driver releases the handbrake, and provides added safety when tackling steeper terrain. REFINED FOR ULTIMATE COMFORT The Grenadier may be a rough, tough off-road utility vehicle, but there’s much more to it than first meets the eye. Featuring a refined interior with a spacious, airy cabin equipped with supportive RECARO seats, the Grenadier offers the comfort expected by today’s customer. A smooth civilised ride makes even the longest journeys a pleasure, whether crossing a continent, tackling a lengthy commute, or taking a long-anticipated family trip. Its smooth ride and quiet cabin make the Grenadier a comfortable place to be. This is possible thanks to the Grenadier’s body being isolated from the ladder-frame by eight chassis mounts, reducing body vibrations and insulating passengers from bumps in the road as a result. The Grenadier loves a bit of mud and it can easily be washed down, inside and out. Five interior drain valves mean owners can hose out the floor without concerns of damaging interior materials. An IP54K rating for critical components in the cabin ensures the odd splash won’t damage the switch gear or electronics. INEOS Automotive has gone back to basics to create an interior that’s functional, intuitive, and comfortable. Where possible, the Grenadier remains analogue and mechanical. Benefiting from big, clearly labelled and well-spaced buttons for use with gloves, the centrally-located controls offer simple and safe operation for both driver and co-driver. TheGrenadier’s overhead control panel keeps off-road switch gear out of the way, while guards provide protection on important switches to avoid inadvertent operation. All the info is conveniently displayed on one screen to provide maximum visibility. Highly supportive eight-way, manually adjustable RECARO seats have been specially designed for the Grenadier. Optimised lateral back support keeps the driver and passengers comfortable and secure, while low profile cushion bolsters mean it’s easy to get in and out. The standard seating upholstery is a combination of hard-wearing tough cloth and vinyl that are stain-, dirt- and water-resistant, and are easy to clean. Supple full-grain leather seats – in black, or in two-tone black-and-grey – are available as an option. Leather front seats are heated as standard, with heated front seats an option for the standard cloth and vinyl trim. Safari Windows offer additional light and fresh air into the cabin. Closed, ventilated, or removed completely, the tinted Safari Windows above the driver and co-driver come as standard on the Fieldmaster Edition, or as an option on all other variants. When removed, they can be stored safely in the dedicated bag provided. Unobstructed visibility for ultimate wheel placement A commanding driving position, large wing mirrors and the instrument cluster on the central touchscreen all contribute to unobstructed sight of both front corners and optimum visibility when driving off-road. This helps with pinpoint wheel placement when tackling tricky off-road terrain. The touchscreen can also display a clear view of the steering angle for added reassurance. Parking sensors, standard at the rear and optional at the front, help the Grenadier to offer excellent urban situational awareness, too, and simplify manoeuvrability in and out of tight spaces. An optional rear-view camera – included as standard on Belstaff editions – further aids rear visibility and helps in hitching-up a trailer, too. Control at the driver’s fingertips In terms of driving information, everything the driver needs to know is in one place, from speed, gear and fuel level, through to tyre pressures, maps, media, phonebook, current bearing, co-ordinates, steering angle, vehicle attitude, and more. The Grenadier’s Central Control System, designed specifically for INEOS Automotive, displays all required information via an easy-to-control 12.3-inch touchscreen, which can be accessed using the buttons on the multifunction steering wheel or the rotary controller on the centre console. The Grenadier comes with a DAB+ radio as standard. Passengers can easily access playlists and podcasts with AndroidTM Auto and wireless Apple CarPlay®, while Bluetooth connectivity and voice control allow for hands-free calls. Power is always on tap, with USB-A, USB-C and 12V sockets as standard. Extra outlets can be added as an option. AndroidTM Auto and wireless Apple CarPlay® (both included as standard) take care of on-road navigation needs, using Waze, Google Maps, or whatever compatible app the driver chooses. Off-road, owners can use INEOS Automotive’s Pathfinder navigation system (included as standard), which has been specifically developed for adventures in the Grenadier. Pathfinder enables the driver to plot GPS waypoints, save and share .GPX files. An optional compass and altimeter are included on Trialmaster and Fieldmaster Editions, with both conveniently integrated into the centre console. Adaptability is built into the Grenadier. Open-source pre-wiring offers all the equipment the driver needs at their fingertips. The Grenadier is equipped with three 10A circuits as standard, switchable from the overhead control panel. For heavy duty applications, including light bars and winches, owners can choose the high load auxiliary switch panel, which provides four extra circuits (three 25A and one 500A), plus four integrated, weather- proof, roof-mounted sockets. Safe and secure Even in a tough, back-to-basics 4X4 utility vehicle, modern safety features matter. As such, the Grenadier equipped with range of in-built safety systems as standard. The Grenadier is equipped as standard with two front airbags, two curtain airbags, and two side airbags for driver and front passenger. The Grenadier also features ISOFIX/iSize child seat anchor points for each of the two outboard rear seats on five-seat models. The following are also included as standard to help to keep occupants safe, relaxed and in control: anti-lock brakes (ABS), electronic traction control (ETC), and electronic stability control (ESC), automatic hazard warning, tyre pressure monitoring system (TPMS), seatbelt reminder system and SOS Emergency Call††, Uphill Assist, Downhill Assist, cruise control and Trailer Stability Assist. An advanced anti-theft alarm and immobiliser (Thatcham Cat. 1) is fitted as standard. ††: SOS Emergency Call is included for: EU, Saudi Arabia, Oman, UAE, Kuwait, Qatar, Bahrain PULLING ITS WEIGHT Whatever they need to move, Grenadier owners can load it, tow it, drag it, recover it, or strap it to the roof. Offering a braked 3.5-tonne towing capacity, more than 2,000 litres of load space and 5.5 tonnes of winching power for recovering themselves or others, the Grenadier is the ultimate load lugger. Carrying the burden The Grenadier is built to tackle any task and is engineered to maximise payload and carry what’s required of it. The two-seat Utility Wagon can accommodate a standard euro pallet, with a volume capacity of 2,088 litres. The five-seat Utility Wagon has a load space of 1,255 litres behind the cargo barrier. With its 60:40 split folding rear bench seat folded flat, the five-seat Station Wagon provides 2,035 litres of load space. With the rear seats in use, the load space in the five-seat Station Wagon is a class-leading 1,152 litres. When it comes to securing cargo, the Grenadier provides flexibility inside and on top. A total of 10 integrated tie-down rings come as standard in the Station Wagon – 12 in the Utility Wagon models. Flush, floor-mounted interior cargo rails, an adaptable cargo securing system, as well as a range of barriers and partitions to organise loads are available as part of a range of additional cargo management options and accessories. The Grenadier’s reinforced roof structure gives it best-in-class roof loading capabilities. Built-in roof rails and rubber protection strips come as standard and have been designed to allow owners to secure kit directly to the Grenadier’s roof any time with minimal fuss. For more regular roof loading, owners can specify the Rhino Rack roof rack with a 150kg** dynamic load capacity. When parked up the Grenadier can carry up to 420kg on the roof. The Grenadier’s 3.5-tonne towing capacity is available with both civilian and commercial towing attachments. Coupled with INEOS Automotive’s vertical towing interface – which accommodates numerous different towbar and towball fitments – the Grenadier has serious flexibility and towing ability. To improve safety, handling and driveability, Trailer Stability Assist comes as standard. Unlike many of its heroes from the past, and even some class competitors of today, a tight loading space is no problem for the Grenadier. Its unique 30/70 split rear doors offer excellent flexibility whatever the load. The 30 door offers quick and easy access for smaller items and, when full width is required, the 70 door can be opened to provide unrestricted loading of larger items. Always looking to maximise functional practicality, INEOS Automotive has flipped the spare wheel mounted on the 70 door. Now facing ‘the wrong way’, it allows what is otherwise dead space inside the wheel rim to be used as useful storage. A lockable compartment provides a handy, secure and quickly accessible place to stow belongings such as mucky boots and a wet jacket. The optional factory-fit, high-performance winch from NATO supplier Red Winches, is strong, precision-engineered and fully integrated into the front bumper. With that providing 5.5 tonnes of winching power, the Grenadier is always prepared, whatever the task. INEOS Automotive’s optional aluminium access ladder mounted to the 30 rear door provides a strong and stable route to the roof. Rated for 150kg, the access ladder is both E- coated and powder coated for maximum strength and durability. **includes weight of roof rack PERSONALISATION Colours The Grenadier is available in six solid and four metallic body colours. To complement the selected body paint finish, owners can choose either a black or white contrast roof. The six solid colours are: Scottish White; Magic Mushroom; Eldoret Blue; Britannia Blue; Sela Green; Inky Black. The four metallic colours are: Shale Blue; Queen’s Red; Donny Grey; Sterling Silver. Additional design personalisation can be made through contrast accents. Taking inspiration from popular liveries used on the Grenadier development prototypes that tested in plain sight, customers can choose a contrast door wrap and / or a contrast nose wrap on production vehicles. The available contrast accent wraps are Tunic Red and Emergency Orange (both solid). Possible body colour and accent combinations are confirmed on the online configurator. In recognition that INEOS Automotive’s tough ladder frame chassis sets the brand apart from others, instead of the standard black powder coat finish, customers can opt to have the ladder frame in red or grey powder coat finish. TRUE TO SIR JIM’S VISION In 2017, INEOS Chairman Sir Jim Ratcliffe, a car enthusiast and experienced adventurer, identified a gap in the market for a stripped back, utilitarian, hard-working 4X4 engineered for modern day compliance and reliability. The idea to develop a vehicle from scratch was developed by Sir Jim and some friends in their favourite pub, The Grenadier in Belgravia, London, which inspired the vehicle’s name. INEOS Automotive Limited was formed and a senior team of automotive professionals assembled to bring the vision to reality with a fresh perspective of 4X4 development and manufacturing. The Grenadier has come to life over the last five years, combining rugged British spirit and design with German engineering rigour. The team has not wavered in its razor-sharp focus on remaining true to Sir Jim’s original vision. The Grenadier will provide best-in-class off- road capability, durability, and reliability to those who depend on a vehicle as a working tool, wherever they are in the world. Engineering integrity The Grenadier has undergone a rigorous, global testing programme over 1.1 million miles to ensure it meets INEOS Automotive’s ambition to be the ultimate 4X4. This is backed up with a class-leading five-year warranty. The Grenadier is built to last and engineered to keep going, year after year. Renowned for their unforgiving and destructive hard-rock terrain, the Austrian mountains have been used for decades by Magna Steyr as the ultimate test of off-road capability and durability for special purpose vehicles. Including INEOS’s in-house team and those at its development partners – in particular, at Magna and AVL – there are around 350 engineers developing the Grenadier. The Grenadier’s testing programme saw more than 130 second-phase prototypes deployed in extreme environments around the world. For example, off-road development locations included one of the most formidable 4X4 testing grounds in the world – the notorious trails of Schöckl mountain near INEOS Automotive’s engineering partner Magna Steyr’s HQ in Austria. Engineers successfully completed extensive cold weather engine calibration with Grenadier prototypes in northern Sweden, vehicle dynamic development in Hungary, and hot weather testing in Morocco and the Middle East. Since 2020, INEOS Automotive has been working with The HALO Trust as a development partner for the Grenadier. The world’s largest humanitarian mine clearance and weapons disposal organisation operates more than 600 4X4 vehicles in some of the most remote and inhospitable places on the planet. Seeing how drivers deal with the terrain and repair vehicles in challenging conditions and with only basic tools has helped shape the ongoing development of the Grenadier. Prototypes are joining active HALO projects. World-class build quality INEOS Automotive’s Hambach plant is a state-of-the-art 210,000m2 facility. It employs a highly experienced direct workforce of 1,000 and with an excellent track record for the quality of its output. Its location within the German automotive cluster gives it excellent access to supply chains, automotive talent and sales markets. Since acquiring Hambach from Mercedes-Benz in January 2021, INEOS has invested over €50m in addition to the €470m invested in 2019. The Grenadier line includes a new semi- automated paintshop, a new fully-automated bodyshop, and a new quality centre. In 2021, INEOS produced over 26,600 smart cars and almost 30,000 EQA front-end modules under contract to Mercedes-Benz. INEOS is installing all-new IT and supply chain systems for production planning, logistics and parts quality monitoring, meaning the Grenadier operation is benefiting from the latest technology and is completely independent of the smart line. Hundreds of Grenadier production prototypes are now being built at Hambach. These are being used for final test rounds including crash testing for certification and to validate the assembly process and build quality. The Hambach workforce is going through 20,000 hours of training as it prepares for the start of production. Hambach is on-track to begin launch series production in July 2022." The press pack also includes the brochure and price list, available elsewhere and in the .pdf below INEOS_Grenadier_Press_Kit_-_UK_-_29_April_2022.pdf

Another blasted vehicle with the "Poverty White" no cost option! I want a basic (ish) vehicle with side runners, (for Mother and Mother in law) GO3A/GEC 5 seat SW Diesel, £52,000 + Britannia Blue £505 + Scottish White Contrast Roof £915 + BFG T/A KO2 tyres £470 + Spare Wheel Lockable Box £260 +Safari Windows £1445 +Fixed tow ball & electrics £570 +High Load Switch Panel £1060 + Auxillary Charge Points £155 + Side Runner £809 = £58,189 The £59,000 "most of the options" special editions start to look like better value; to the Trailmaster Edition I'd need to add the paint options, (505 + 915), Safari Windows (1445), lockable storage box, (260), Tow pack (570) and the side runner (809) = £63,504, including lots of stuff I don't really need like locking diffs, raised air intake, utility belt and access ladder. Saddle leather Driver's Pack is too much @ £620, the Safari Windows @ £1445 and the lockable storage box is looking iffy too @ £260 My priced Land Rover Defenders in Poverty White were 110 3 seat Van with tow pack £54,580, 110 5 seat CSW with tow pack £47,700; these are a little academic as you cannot get one within 12 months. I do not want to spend over £60k on a vehicle, so it's time to analyse the price list and see if there are any compromises I'm willing to make

Yes, but you actually use yours for the purpose intended; style over substance is probably NOT your thing!

A new press release, containing some answers for @Hybrid_From_Hell FIRST INEOS GRENADIER RETAILERS IN THE UK WILL OPEN IN JUNE · 34 locations in the UK are among over 160 INEOS Grenadier sales and service points confirmed around the world · Global retail network includes established dealer groups, 4X4 specialists and agricultural equipment dealers · By the end of 2022 INEOS plans to have 200 sales and service outlets globally London, 25 April 2022 – INEOS Automotive has nominated the partners that will operate the first 24 retail sites in the UK. These are among the first 160 locations to be confirmed in markets around the world. By the end of 2022 INEOS plans to have a network of 200 sales and service sites for the Grenadier spanning over 50 countries, including established dealer groups, 4X4 specialists and agricultural equipment dealers. The 24 retail locations confirmed so far in the UK are: · Bowker, Ribble Valley · Busseys, Attleborough · Cambria, Birmingham · Cambria, Edinburgh · Car Barn, Beamish · Chandlers, Belton · Chandlers, Horncastle · Compass, Bridgwater · Day's, Neath · Denton, Skipton · Endeavour, Gerrards Cross · Halliwell Jones, Chester · Harwoods, Portsmouth · Heritage, Dorchester · Heritage, Gloucester · Hollybrook, Belfast · Jardine, Colchester · Jardine, Sevenoaks · JT Hughes, Telford · Lloyd, Carlisle · Ocean, Plymouth · Sandicliffe, Nottingham · Northampton, retailer confirmed · West London, retailer confirmed INEOS is working with these retailers to set up their outlets and be ready to welcome customers in the next few months. That process includes an intensive INEOS training programme for the sales agents and workshop technicians. The first of the newly nominated sites will open in June. The aim is for the majority of customers in the UK to always be within 45 minutes of an official sales and service location. The retail partners will form the backbone of the service network in the country, with additional geographical coverage provided by ten selected partners and hand-picked INEOS-accredited Bosch Car Service outlets. All servicing centres in Scotland will eventually support sales and test drive activity, including sites confirmed for Stirling, Kilmarnock and Inverness. “We have worked tirelessly for over a year to find retail partners in the UK that share our enthusiasm and excitement for the Grenadier,” said Gary Pearson, Head of UK and MENA for INEOS Automotive. “They understand 4X4 users and their requirements, and have a proven track record for exceptional customer service. Together with these partners, we look forward to providing Grenadier customers with the advice, guidance and support they need.” Prospective customers will be able to find their nearest Grenadier retailer via an interactive map at ineosgrenadier.com. Technical specifications and pricing for the INEOS Grenadier in the UK will be confirmed by the end of April, with order books opening in May. -Ends-

Ineos have been appointing dealers around the UK, (and worldwide), including agricultural merchants and small dealer chains. My nearest is Chandlers in Belton, near Grantham, https://www.chandlers.co.uk/chandlers-news/new-ineos-grenadier-exclusive-lincolnshire-launch. Heritage, in the South West have also broken cover, https://www.heritageineosgrenadier.co.uk/ Service is a little more all-inclusive, with apparently the warranty being honoured if genuine parts are used, either self-maintained or by a local repairer. They will be supplying an open-source manual for access by almost anyone! It is not a modern Land Rover, but we will not necessarily believe this promised land until experienced.

Leicestershire Police ask that any video is provided unedited - editing leaves a trail, so any tampering for artistic or nepharious purposes will come to light quickly. My dashcam produces 1 minute clips, (the original clip length can be set between 30 seconds and 5 minutes), they have been happy with simple copies from the data card.

I suspect I'll be classified as a zealot! I did the 2B prototype tour and I've seen the dealer interior protoype at a potential local dealer and I'm happy to proceed. You cannot buy a basic new Defender as they will not take your order or quote 24 months for delivery, so at the moment it's blingy ones or nothing. Totally understandable commercial decision for the manufacturer to chase the margins, but no help to me. So I'm left with Grenadier or another 110 rebuild; I still have the mental scars from the last one. I saw a new Suzuki Jimny Commercial at our local dealer today, (£21k OTR in silver metallic). The salesperson said they will get 4 a year and have no control on colour or specification. I'm not crazy about the colour and it is just too small and cannot tow enough to be a realistic alternative. I'm taking a small risk buying a vehicle I have not fully test driven, but selling it on should be easy. Very few of the new cars I bought gave much of a test drive; from Vauxhall Nova 1.2 in 1984, Vectra in 1998 with a few inbetween, and none of the second hand vehicles test drives achieved much more than it works and I fit!

Video footage contains a lot of metadata, often including location, (from GPS), frame rate, shutter and aperture settings, the capture device ID and #numbers identifying each frame. Each time you edit the footage, the metadata is added/deleted or altered, so spotting changes and edits is not hard. A number of Russians in Ukraine have received a nasty shock when the video data from their selfies has been analysed by the Ukraine intelligence services, Sending messages on public networks is not very smart.

Another warm-up email from Ineos, saying that the prices and configurator will be up on the 28th April 2022 "Hi Jeremy, We’re now into ‘the Final Mile’ of engineering testing. Prototypes are moving down the line at our factory in Hambach. Our sales and service network around the world is taking shape. And we’re getting ready to announce full vehicle specifications and pricing – so that you can lock in your Grenadier order for production, and be one of the first to take delivery of our uncompromising 4X4. In anticipation of this milestone, we wanted to give you an outline of what information to expect and when, and also to answer some of the questions about the ordering process that we know are front of mind. So, here goes: APRIL 28th Go to www.ineosgrenadier.com, where from April 28th you’ll find full vehicle specifications and pricing, trim packs, options and accessories giving you an opportunity to soak up all the information before we open the order books. We’ll also answer your questions on how to buy and service your Grenadier. Our customer services team will also be on standby, on the phone and by email, to answer any questions you may have. customerservice@ineosgrenadier.com. MAY 2022 Our order books will open in May, allowing you to firm up the build slot you previously reserved into a full specification vehicle order. It’s a little later than planned, but we’ve had a few issues outside our control to deal with and want to make sure everything is just right for you. To confirm that order, we’ll be asking for a second payment of GBP 2050. Please know that – as with the reservation fee of GBP 450 – this sum remains fully refundable, and you’ll still be able to make minor changes to your specification until closer to your production date. At this point we will, of course, need you to sign a sales contract as we lock your Grenadier specification into the production schedule. NOW, TO ANSWER SOME OF YOUR SPECIFIC QUESTIONS: What time will orders open? Once we’ve confirmed the date, the order book will open at 08:00 BST on that day. But no need to set an alarm – we’ll keep open our ‘priority access window’, solely for reservists for about a month, after that we’ll be opening it up to all comers. But rest assured we will send you reminders during the month so you can secure that early build slot. I’ve been following the Grenadier story since the beginning and was one of the first to place a reservation on 30th September last year. Can you confirm it’s still ‘first-come, first-served' now that you’re ready to take orders? Absolutely, that’s still the case. We’re holding build slots for all reservists. ‘Hand raisers’ who placed their reservation between 30th September 2021 and 13th October 2021 will have priority access to the first batch of build slots. Those who placed their reservations after then will have priority access to the second batch of build slots. Non-reservist orders will be allocated build slots after that. All build slots are allocated on a first-come, first-served basis within your priority group and will be held for around one month. What if I want to drive one before I buy? That’s your prerogative, of course, and completely understandable. Equally you’ll understand there’s a bit of ‘chicken and egg’ here! We will continue to provide opportunities to experience the Grenadier on our 2B prototype tours, and will have a fleet of demonstrators to offer test drives in from August onwards - by which time we will be building customer vehicles to order. Consequently, deferring your order placement until after your test drive will mean a later delivery. From August you’ll be able to visit your local retailer and take away a Grenadier for a test drive. Reservations and orders are refundable until you sign the vehicle contract, and we’ll confirm the date when you get a build slot. Do I pay the deposit online or at the retailer? On order day, you can make your deposit of GBP 2050 online, either via Visa or Mastercard – and as with the reservation fee of GBP 450, it remains fully refundable until you sign your contract. The balance payment, when due prior to handover, will be by bank transfer. How do I sign the vehicle contract? We will contact you around 60 days before the start of your Grenadier’s build to request an eSignature of your vehicle contract. Can I change my configuration after ordering? You can make tweaks right up until you sign your vehicle contract, but it may have an impact on your production slot. The factory don’t want us changing engines, gearboxes, interior trims but you can change your paint colour or chosen accessories, for example. Our customer service centre is on hand to help get it sorted. How long will it take to build my Grenadier? We’ll give you the estimated build slot month once you’ve placed your order and an estimated delivery date when we ask you to sign your contract. The precise lead time depends on demand. Will you keep me posted about my Grenadier’s production? We certainly will. You’ll receive updates on your Grenadier’s status in your INEOS account. We’ll also contact you at the appropriate time when your contract is ready to sign and finance applications open. I seem to be missing out on emails other people are getting? We had some early issues with email permission settings which meant that some of you weren’t receiving all our communications. We’ve now fixed this, but if you were affected, we apologise sincerely. Can’t see your question here? CONTACT US"

I live in Melton Mowbray, (since 1986), if that's any good to you. The town is comparatively cheap, the villages generally cost more to buy into. There is something of a building boom around here, with new builds in Melton, Frisby, Waltham, Brooksby, Bottesford etc. Melton is about to start building a ring road, so the building spree will probably extend to the edges of the new roads. I can offer a bed for night while you are on reconnaissance.

The middle part of my '91 LR90 van with windows bulkhead was cardboard and filler - putting in new footwells exposed the fraud and required me to change the bulkhead. It would have been less hassle to weld in metal than it must have been to sculpt everything to match! I should have taken pictures, but I was too cross at the time. My 2000 MX5 NB had sill ends made from filler and washing machine casing. Some of the sculpted filler was 40mm deep; a magnet caught that out, I knew it was dodgy and I was going to have the sills changed anyway. Running an angle grinder through the outer sill was a small voyage of discovery, finding the enamel coating on the inside of the steel was a surprise. Probably explains why the welds did not penetrate well. I saw worse as an MOT tester in the very early '80s; back then bean tins were structural!

YouTube video from Overlanding Leks with a Q&A with a Grenadier employee, form a VIP unveiling in Chiswick. Sounds like deliveries are slipping to September and the final configurator and price list by the end of this month - if you have reserved, keep checking your inbox!

I can see where you are coming from but I feel this really needs to be on a case by case basis. The Morgan, you can see how I opted above; the main drivers were the excessive cost and that I could get a useable, reliable and characterful car back on the road for £8000. I have history of buying a car, running it hard then rebuilding it and then destroying it again by excessive use; this is Morgan rebuild number 3 in my hands, the first being rust and chassis fatigue, the second racing accident and this one, 100k+ miles with an engine that does not have a good reputation for longevity, especially when tuned up. The Maxda MX5 California was fixed to work with wings, sills and front chassis rails; it has done under 100k, the engine, gearbox and interior are OK to good. When it fails mechanically, we will have another hard look at an EV conversion as you can buy an off the shelf DIY kit that is about £15k at last viewing and coming down. My wife loves the car but is no petrolhead and as an EV, would probably use it as a commuter car. Much as I love the car, the engine is not its most charismatic element. There are millions of MX5s out there, although not many NB Californians, so I don't see any loss of heritage. The LRs, I'm happy to run on SVO/WVO, so electrification would be a strange miss-step. The 110 will probably be sold for the Grenadier, but we'll see. The last episode of Vintage Voltage shown on TV was a faux BMW CSL with a seized engine. A real CSL would be a real loss, but also intrinsically valuable in any condition. I had no strong feelings and felt the owner was addressing their automotive fantasy. As for the Ferrari Testarossa, there are enough that are mint that one converted as an EV is no great loss. As a bit of street theatre a Testarossa is great, as a driving machine, not so much; there were a lot made and they were not made very well. Ferrari owners seem to collect toys and horde them; a high mileage Ferrari is worth comparatively little, so very few get used and most barely see the light of day. An EV one might come out more often!

I've been having a Morgan 4/4 restored that I have owned from 1991, (the car was built in 1972), and, as the existing Ford Crossflow was well worn out, looked seriously at an electric conversion. There is a US made motor that produces an easy 120bhp, but that and the control box is £4.5k delivered to the UK, so long as the £ doesn't weaken compared to the US$. https://zero-ev.co.uk/product/netgain-hyper-9-motor-sme-ac-x1-controller-kit/?v=79cba1185463 Leaf batteries are about £6k for 30Kw in the UK, with little scope for competition. A Morgan is about the most basic old sports car you can buy, there is no brake servo, no power steering, no AC, only a rudimentary heater, so secondary systems are not really a problem. Getting an adapter plate from the motor to the Ford Serria 1.3 gearbox was around £1500 in design and machining, so you have spent £12,000 on big bits but no guarantee of anything working. Electric Classic Cars expect a basic conversion to be more than £30k, which given the cost of the major parts and the likely labour does not seem unreasonable. I should get the car back at the end of the month with a total spend of about £8000, with almost half being the paint - massively less than a basic, (and experimental), EV conversion.

When my son was at nursery he was routinely driven 40 miles a day - walking is a joke when you add geographical distance and time pressure. These days he is 23 and does not drive; as a Boomer myself, I just cannot see why not, I passed my tests, (car and motorbike) as early as I could. (Back in the late '70s, if I wanted to do anything without my parents and/or public transport, a car was essential; being an apprentice mechanic made cars cheap, living at home made rallying a ruinous rather than impossible hobby). These days a car is expensive to own, (rather than rent), and very hard to DIY. My son gets around on public transport, Uber and mates who need a favour.

Not too many years ago most people lived within walking/cycling distance of their work. Planners have tried to separate homes from businesses, so commuting has become almost compulsory for many. The sheer cost of housing in popular places has made commuting essential for the non-oligarchs, the essential workers and similar. Back in the day, (the 50's to the '70's), employer buses were quite common for mass industries; Leicester still has the odd hosiery bus around now and the local health spa, (Ragdale Hall), has to pick its lowly paid, young staff up by minibus, as most don't drive and there is no public transport to the spa. Back when my Father was a local government essential worker, he was propelled up the social housing queue so he could work for Nottingham City Council, (1968). This is both unlawful and highly unlikely nowadays. Self driving vehicles would take a lot of the cost out of taxis and could easily be shared in a small rural community. Imagine an Uber where you don't have to interact with the driver!

Many of the futureologists paid by car companies and governments to think into the far future suggest that the private car will become as relevant as the horse is now for transport. Most cars spend most time parked up being non-productive - taking transport as a service to its extreme, everyone would use either public mass transit or a self-driving pod/taxi for one, (if rich and/or unable to share), or a small group. Fewer vehicles on the road = less congestion, less capital tied up in a depreciating asset that spends most of it's time parked up and deteriorating. For most people the existing BEV is a "good enough" personal trasport solution; there is enough unproductive time for slow charging and the inconvenience of charging can be reduced by conventional means. I'm a car nut; I'm keeping the little sports cars for fun - at least you don't have to groom or muck out a Morgan or MX5.

Having seen the Volvo report before, I cannot see how you came to your conclusion. Even using high carbon electricity, the BEV Volvo has a lower footprint than the ICE car, within the BEV design life, page 25. I would be interested to understand your thought process. I really do not see the hydrogen fuel cell being much more than a niche; why accept all of the energy losses from electrolysis, storage and distribution of hydrogen when a BEV is double or treble the efficiency? If you start with electricity, it makes sense to avoid any additional processes, as each one just drags down the useable energy. (I have some shares in Riversimple, so I don't mind being wrong!) As a guide, the reciprocating steam engine is around 5% efficient, a ICE car about 35% efficient, a BEV about 85-90% efficient and a HFC BEV about 35% efficient when accounting for the losses in energy conversion and distribution. The obvious niche for hydrogen is for high utilisation heavy plant, (365/24/7), where rapid refuelling is available, (Ineos Grenadier as a site vehicle in a refinery), where free or even paid to consume electricity is available, to act as an energy store. We do not have anything like that level of redundancy yet.

This will probably give one or two a quiet snigger.......I cannot get hold of any cooking oil for my LR! The price of new or recycled oil has gone from about 85p a litre to 124p a litre and my local Costco cannot keep new oil on the shelves. Apparently it is in short supply UK wide and Costco are limiting supplies to 10 x 20l per customer. Still none at 1800 this evening, after they received 48 units at 1000 this morning. At the moment recycled oil is only available fairly locally in 1000l tanks; I don't have the space or handling gear for that. My supplier, (which I helped set up and I'm still a minority shareholder), can sell everything they collect to the oil refiners at a premium. I'm having to run on real diesel.

To be fair to Lucid, they build or commission most of the car technology, even the batteries, (except the cells). There is a First Drives: 300 mile test on the Lucid Air with some words from Peter Rawlinson, (ex principal Engineer, Jaguar Cars, ex Chief Engineer at Lotus, ex Head of vehicle Engineering, Corus Automotive, Ex Tesla, (mainly the S), then Lucid), in the April 2022 Car Magazine. Twisted offer a expensive BEV conversion on the Defender, they are coy about price but £85k seems typical. (with whatever Twisted upgrades are included). Ford will sell you a crate electric motor already, like the ones in a Mustang Mach E,

As are most of us! Panicking should be reserved for those heavily invested in Russia and Ukraine, who are going to be screwed for years to come, no matter what the outcome. War and capitalism is cruel.

Grenadier article in the April 2022 issue of Car Magazine, (page 90 to 97), with good pictures and explanations. Reads as deliveries slipping to August 2022 in the UK. There is some more details on the ride and drive in France on the website, https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/ineos/grenadier-4x4/ I have had my e-mail warning me of the likely assult to my bank account, £2500, less the £450 already paid. Presumably it gets less refundable from April 2022. view.grenadier.ineos.com.pdf