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Yes the engines can be rebuilt bit not with LR parts - questionable quality aftermarket parts only - the recognized top LR independents in the UK are cautioning about using these parts as they have major failures and are unable to warrant their work if using these parts. So it would seem you pay your money for these aftermarket parts then maybe have to do another rebuild soon after. It is a risk assessment process. We are lucky here in Australia in that we have a ready supply of low km late model 2.7s from our Ford Territories which go straight in - there are far more Territories than Discos so supply is not such an issue. Unfortunately dismantlers have started to under stand this and prices are going up. Garry

Yes - we have a bit of a cool snap here 22c at 9 in the evening - a cool 30c tomorrow - time for the heaters soon.

Ok - do you know what the actual problem is with this engine? What do you mean by seized? This normally implies pistons locked to the cylinder liners which does not normally happen with the 2.7. I am assuming that the engine will not turn over - normally one of three issues. 1. The cam belt tensioner which is mounted to the oil pump has broken so the belt jumps teeth - basically pistons hit valves breaking valves, rockers and possibly the cam chain. In some cases damage to pistons may not exist and the heads and valve gear can be rebuilt. So check if the cam belt tensioner has broken off the oil pump. 2. What you have alluded to above; in some engines, a big end conrod bearing can rotate and fatigues the crankshaft so it breaks. Engine rebuild is required - drop the sump and have a look. 3. Related to two, there have been some report of cranks breaking without apparent bearings spinning - straight metallurgical failure of the crank - result is the same as two - drop the sump and have a look. If you look at the Disco3Uk forum and the RRS UK forum - you will find plenty on these issues and find people who have worked through them. http://www.rrsport.co.uk/forum/ https://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/ Garry

For a D3 you would only ever consider a replacement engine of the same type using the standard electronics - to change to another type of engine is never going to be viable due to to huge cost of changing computers and other electronic issues. So your only real option is a rebuild or a replacement 2.7. No other options are economically viable.

Yes the same engine - just some minor differences with some ancillaries which you would move from your old engine. (not sure which ones but is no issue) The Territory engine is the lastest version of the 2.7 so doesn't have most of the issues (like oil pump housing failures) and I haven't heard of spun bearings and broken crankshafts with them. I know the Territory was exported to South Africa but not sure if the diesel models were - so check - certainly there are plenty of petrol Territory's on SA Gumtree. Garry

Likewise the aftermarket rebuild parts for the 2.7TDV6 do not have a good reputation - that oil pump on the Turner site is not genuine Ford and aftermarket pumps have a dismal failure rate of the seals.

Yes exactly but if you don't have the equipment you may not have any choice. Despite all the advice that it could not be done, on the US Range Rover Sport Forum there is a thread where the owner replaced his petrol V8 in the driveway of his residential house with nothing other that home garage tools - no lifts for the body. He worked slowly and methodically and was able to get the engine changed in a relatively short period of time - so yes it can be done. However with a lift, the body is off in a few hours and then is everything around the engine is easily accessible - this really is the preferred way to do it but if you dont have the equipment then work arounds are needed. Garry

Well it can be done with the body on but is a pain to get to hard to get spots - but if you are prepared to take your time and have low stress levels it is doable.. The body is not all that hard to undo but you will need a 2 or 4 post lift to get it up. Garry

Engines are not rebuildable with new parts. Anything you see a reconditioned/rebuilt means it has had parts taken from one used engine and put in another. About the only thing you can buy new aftermarket are bearing shells and these are of untested quality. Buy a good running second hand engine. Garry

See this thread over on the Series 1 Club forum on this. http://www.lrsoc.com/forum/index.php?topic=18861.msg256434#msg256434

94.8cm or 37.3" - just measured at the center of the bonnet of a 57 88 SWB SW.

Jeebus - at 1000 a year - why bother - its not going to have much in it.

With those miles I would not worry about the filter but definitely do the oil.

I also am fitting a Thor to a vehicle it was not originally fitted too. See pic it is a thor manifold with the plenum removed - the yellow arrow is to one of Niges temp sensors for the ECU. The red arrow is to the dash gauge sensor fitted where it is in older RV8s in the outlet pipe from the thermostat - Nige also has a mod for this but the one in the pic is from a 3.5 - the pipe is mounted to one of Nige's adaptor kits to allow the older thermostat and housing to be use on the Thor system.

There are plenty in Australia. https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/land-rover-6x6-military-perentie-tray-back/222771443000?hash=item33de367538:g:D30AAOSw3ydVpMvC https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/land-rover-6x6-perentie-tray-back-with-canopy/222771444282?hash=item33de367a3a:g:wU0AAOSwhQ5XQhgo https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/land-rover-6x6-110-perentie-water-truck-fire-truck/222742581590?hash=item33dc7e1156:g:EnoAAOSwDmBY4GLa And these have a great engine - 3.9litre Turbo Isuzu diesel.

Go 9.00x16 - tall and compared to height are narrow - but will your axles be able to handle them.

Yes and in Australia Toyota decided their 4wds needed to have longer legs and this marked the demise of LR as the main 4wd here and Toyota has ruled the 4wd market ever since. LR failed to understand it had a world market not just a UK home market and failed to produce suitable vehicles for long distance higher speed scenarios. Great for popping down to the High Street from the local farm but when those distances were 1000km or more a good old Landie could just not cut it. Garry

So this is an ordinary series 3 with a V8 grafted in rather than a proper Series 3 V8 (Stage 1) which would have a similar radiator panel as is fitted to the vehicle.

Thanks - my 101 is almost mid engined with the fuel tank just behind the engine on the outside of the chassis. The plumbing is all there just got to chase the mud wasps out of the fuel return line before I connect it all up. cheers

Thanks for the comments - as the fuel rail and injectors are all standard Thor stuff I don't believe heating and air in the system is an issue as the same problem would occur with the standard engine. I bow to all comments on the fuel pump not being controlled by the ECU in the original setup but that differs from advice on the web and the wiring diagram does show some sort of control from the ECU but that is neither here not there for what I am trying to do. The OEM fuel pump is exceptionally expensive and does not fit my tank without major modification to the tank so that precludes using the OEM fuel pump - I am sure Nige at Megasquirt for V8s would have taken into account the pros and cons of various pump arrangements before coming up with what he has for the Thor. Quagmire - I can see what you mean about the e39 fuel filter and I will keep that in the back of my mind. Once I get the engine all up and running I might replace the standard fuel filter with an E39 with a fuel line direct to the fuel rail and see what happens - with the knowledge that the engine already works. So unless someone has a reason why what I have proposed will not work I will proceed on the lines I have proposed - if it doesnt work it will be easy to change to maybe the e39 filter/reg with little dismantling. Thanks Garry

The Thor RV8 engines have a complex fuel pump, which is 'In Tank' and ECU Controlled - as such there is not fuel return from the fuel rail. I want to install a MS3X on my Thor using a different fuel tank (has a fuel return) and pump etc. From Megasquirt for V8s I have purchased a suitable 120psi fuel pump and fuel regulator that can reduce the pressure to the required 52psi that the fuel rail and injectors need. The issue I have, is where to place the fuel regulator in the fuel circuit as the fuel rail does not have a fuel return. The MS documentation has this diagram which has the style of regulator I have with fuel return etc. But as there is no fuel return on the fuel rail it will not work as is. Fuel Diagram 1 by Garry Collins, on Flickr I have changed the above diagram so there is a T piece in the fuel line before the fuel rail connected to the regulator. I have removed the fuel return from the end of the fuel rail in the above diagram so the new circuit looks like this. Fuel Diagram 2 by Garry Collins, on Flickr With this arrangement I think the regulator should be able to maintain the required 52psi between the 120psi pump and the fuel rail while still allowing the excess fuel to go back to the tank. Is there anything I have missed? Thanks Garry

As mentioned - any RV8 from any era runs fine on unleaded.

You can install a shorter oil filter and that might fix your problem. A remote filter is mounted safe somewhere with piping running to the oil pump.

Yes I agree with you about Dave - he is very helpful and not backward in giving his time to help others. Following the discussion on the V8 forum - what is the 3rd? The MS Forum? Garry

Wow - this is getting bigger than the Ben Hur production - 60 odd posts over two forums and still resolution.