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  1. Chicken Drumstick

    reversing alarm

    Or in the bin Unless you are on a construction site. Do you really need such a thing on a normal road car?
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    Thoughts and musings on the new defender

    Here is a good example of what I’m meaning. 1min 44sec in. In less experienced or somewhat more reckless hands I reckon that would have gone all the way over.
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    Thoughts and musings on the new defender

    I think I was pretty fair and said the Freelander is good on certain terrain and cited a few examples. But up the ante and introduce more technical off road situations and they are out of their depth unless you have a completely reckless driving style and care little for vehicle or people around you.
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    Thoughts and musings on the new defender

    Because I've driven Freelanders off road, maybe they just feel less stable than they are. But I'm not convinced. Lifting wheels high in the air, then suddenly flopping over hard onto the opposite wheel has to be recipe for a rollover at some point. It certainly doesn't feel very stable. I don't have a pic of a Freelander on an RTI ramp, but here is an IFS/IRS vehicle with more wheel travel than a Freelander. Note how high the wheel is in the air. A sudden weight shift in the vehicle or going up the ramp a few inches too far will result in the wheel plummeting to the ground at high speed. And may result in a rollover (I think it did with the Hummer if you look at the pics on Google). And would be very unnerving if you where on the side of a hill while doing this. While you can still obviously roll a live axle vehicle, it is usually more progressive and as a rule the wheels stay nearer the ground for longer, so when the weight shifts, they don't "land" as hard. This is one of a number of Freelanders I've driven off road. Even driving into a fairly shallow hole resulted in it dramatically lifting the rear wheel off the deck. Hitting the hole at speed or a slightly deeper hole could quite easily cause a roll over IMO. A Defender/Series/D1/D2/RR/p38 won't even lift a wheel on the same spot and again feel a lot more stable. I know how an autobox works, but if what you say is completely true, why do LR still fit low range to their vehicles, the RR has been auto only since the L322 and the Disco since the D4. Surely they and all other automatic 4x4's are doing it wrong by still offering low range on their models. And I doubt either of us are qualified to answer the last statement. However observationally the off road industry is HUGE with 1000's of aftermarket parts companies making off road goodies for new and almost new vehicles. So somebody must be buying them. YouTube sand similar are also littered with videos of people using their 4x4's recreationally.
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    Thoughts and musings on the new defender

    It doesn't need clever engineering to meet safety reqs though. Almost all the big car makers build body on frame trucks and use at least one live axle. The best selling vehicle in the USA is one. Ford F150-650 Ford Ranger Toyota Tacoma, HiLux Dodge Ram Chevy/GM Silverado VW Amorak Nissan Nivara Mitsubishi L200 Suzuki Jimny Jeep Wrangler to name but a few
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    Thoughts and musings on the new defender

    I like Freelanders, but their ability is very dictated to the terrain. On something slippery like snow, sand or wet grass the TCS allows them to be quite effective. Arguably more so than an open diffed non TCS Defender. But there is an Everest between their off road abilities once you go a little further off road or include any technical off road sections. The lack of ride height, articulation and poor approach, departure and breakover angles make them significantly less capable. The lack of low range also compounds this. The result of this is, they are forever lifting wheels and feel very unstable. And I daresay far easier to roll over. They get beached easily and end up stuffing their bumpers into the ground, which usually stops them and/or lifts the wheels off the ground. And without low range, you can't crawl over obstacles either. So due to the gearing and general lack of ability you have to attack obstacles at much higher speed to have enough momentum to get through them. This however is potentially damaging to the underside of the vehicle, uncomfortable to be in and has much higher risk of something going wrong and should something go wrong, the higher speeds mean the result of going wrong is likely to be more dangerous and/or damaging. As for the new Defender. I think LR have demonstrated that highly complex, expensive cross linked air based IFS/IRS systems can produce quite capable off road machines. Although ultimately probably less capable still than a live axle, as they still lack the stability and travel and wheel camber angles can become less desirable under certain conditions. The sticking point for me is the cost and complexity. I don't want a Defender with expensive, fragile complex cross linked air suspension with a raft of sensors and control units. And if they ditch the cross linked air and go for coil suspension, it really won't be as good off road, for the simple fact the wheels are no longer directly connected. Just watch any videos of 3rd Gen Mitsubishi Shoguns (Pojeros) to get a feel for the capability. They aren't bad, but will generally get stopped where a stock D2 will walk up.
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    Thoughts and musings on the new defender

    Tough one to call. BAE owned Rover before and set stupid expectations. The company mostly met them, but all the profit was sucked up by the parent company. So you need to look beyond just the base profit and loss figures. At the end of the day Rover sold a lot of cars. And they sold them for more than it cost to build them. So money was being made.... somewhere. Even if the accounts don’t show this in simple black & white format.
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    Thoughts and musings on the new defender

    I'm not saying you can't have parts interchangeability. It's just the claim of can't build anything unless it shares the platform is a bit of a farce... it's not as if it's just swapping body tubs on pair of chassis rails that you can alter the length of. It's just a cop out excuse that's easy to parade for not doing something else.
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    Thoughts and musings on the new defender

    In theory yes, reality is most makers usually change bits. A disco2 might share the same engine and gearbox with Defender, but the rest of the drivetrain and suspension is different for instance. Props will be different on an RRS to a D3 due to wheelbase differences.
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    Thoughts and musings on the new defender

    I'm not sure I believe the platform sharing guff tbh. Lets face it, even shared platforms end up with significant changes and once you have the tooling the actual cost of bending one bit of metal into one shape and another bit of metal into a different shape for another vehicle is likely to be identical. Look at all of the other car makers the world over, any of them that offer a proper 4x4 or utility vehicle do so on a platform that isn't shared with their other range. Even VW built a purpose designed platform for their pickup rather than base it on a Golf platform or a chopped down Touareg. All the other car makers make money and profit, so I don't see why JLR can't do the same.
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    What axle innards does the 70th Anni Defender use?

    I just wondered if LR beefed them up a bit. Pretty sure the JE Engineering Defenders usually use Ashcroft ATB and shafts and I know Ashcroft supplies the factory for other bits.
  12. Chicken Drumstick

    Best way to run a BMW M51?

    Thanks for all the replies. Yes a mechanical pump seems the easiest to get it running, although I've not found much detailed info on converting them previously. The diesel appealed as it would offer sufficient grunt with a tweak and better mpg. But I'd like to ditch as much p38 wiring as possible. Which unless I'm mistaken will mean you'd need the BECM to talk to the engine ECU to disarm the immobiliser. So you'd still need a keyfob to do this. And you'd need all the sensors to say if doors are shut and the like to prevent the air suspension from being disabled. Just seems a lot of faffing. And a lot of components to re-house somewhere in a 109 that you really don't want or aren't using. Keeping the air suspension I would like and I've found some controllers from a US company that would work and not too pricey. You'd control the air bags per axle and they wouldn't auto raise and lower at set speeds like the factory setup, but you could have a normal, extended and entry ride height programmed and ability to control each airbag if needed. A manual V8 p38 seems a better bet, but sadly hard to find.
  13. Does anyone know what axles and innards the 70th Anniversary Defender V8 uses? I know it has the AJV8 and ZF 8 speed box, but I assume the axles are still Rover. My guess is they might be running Ashcroft HD components. Are they still open diffs or did Land Rover fit an LSD?
  14. Chicken Drumstick

    D2 Steelies

    What is your intended use?
  15. Chicken Drumstick

    D2 Steelies

    Paddock Spares (and others I daresay) sell some 16x8 steel wheels for a D2/p38, available in two offsets. A 235/85 will probably rub, especially if you are off road. So you may need to trim a few bits. But should be perfectly doable.
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