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  1. I certainly don't deny the L322 is 'better' all round. Especially in the comfort department. Just not so on the fun side of things. Also off roading is very dependent on what you are doing. One of the sections we setup at weekend had a crest that when you went over it, the front bumper of a Defender was only about 1" clear of the ground. A Discovery or Range Rover of any sort would have been stuffing it's nose in the dirt, ok if it's a beat up trials vehicle. But not something I'd have wanted to subject a plastic fronted tidy road vehicle too.
  2. I think you can pay a horrendous sum, something like £1500+ for Terrain Response 2 or something that is meant to be customisable. But I'm unsure what it really lets you do.
  3. MT's and rocks may not be the best mix anyhow. I would also suggest driver has a lot to do with it. And most Defenders I've seen running 35" tyres actually have poor performing suspension. Not saying this was the case, but it really wouldn't surprise me. Too much lift, lacking down travel and too stiff for compression. Lastly if it was an open axle diff Defender with no TCS, then yes of course -- cross axle situations will be a hindrance.
  4. Outperforms in some areas such as comfort and NVH. I'd however hold my hand up and say a sorted 90 is more 'fun' to drive on the road and arguably handles better (not to be confused with grip/traction).
  5. Try Camskill: https://www.camskill.co.uk/ I bought some Kumho MT51's from them for my Range Rover a couple of years ago. Have bought other tyres from them in the past too. Generally pretty good prices. I went for a 255/70R16. Not the most aggressive mud terrain, but pretty good on the road and enough for the off roading I intend to use them for.
  6. In summary. I suspect for me it would be one of two scenarios: -forever faving and switching modes to try and find the best one for the situation. Or wore finding none of them are quite right for the situation. Or -end up using one mode for everything. Meaning that having such a system is wasted anyhow. I’m only theorising as I don’t own anything with Terrain Response. But pretty much every other system in the World that I’ve encountered to make things easier for dumb people (prolific in the software world and I’m a software tester) I always have usability issues with. As it never ever does what I want it too.
  7. I’m not saying it doesn’t work. But reading the details I do rather think I’d want manual control over the different aspects instead. It just doesn’t appear to match up the settings I’d want correctly. Mans I know having just setup a trials event last weekend. People do drive differently too. So it isn’t just about the terrain, but what you want to do with the vehicle and how you want it to behave. SAND: It’s important to maintain momentum on soft surfaces, so the system heightens engine and gearbox response, and locks the centre differential. ROCK CRAWL: On harsh terrain, maximum control is needed, so Terrain Response softens the accelerator response. GRASS-GRAVEL-SNOW: Electronic Traction Control intervenes early to prevent tyre slip, gear changes are sped up and the accelerator response is softened to help avoid loss of traction. Hill Descent Control is automatically engaged when needed. MUD-RUTS: The traction control system is optimised to allow controlled tyre slip, which provides the best traction in slippery conditions. GENERAL: Terrain Response maximises fuel efficiency and minimises emissions in everyday road driving.
  8. But it has selectable modes too. So how is the average punter meant to know which mode to use and when to leave it in automatic? And how do you know if your selection was the correct one? 😉
  9. Not directly aimed at the new Pretender. But all these off road modes, to my mind make off roading harder. In past times you just selected difflock/4wd and/or low range. And that was it. These days you have 18+ off road modes, plus additional options and configurable controls. You need to not only be an expert on the terrain, but also the vehicles design parameters to even know what to select. Or blindly experiment through trial and error. A friend had a 2.7 RRS, so Terrain Response, but somewhat simple compared to some of the newer systems. But still way too many modes. He is also a seasoned off-roader in competitions and overlanding. However he complained the RRS was horrid off road, example being. Going into a ploughed field. Select "Mud & Ruts" which would seem to be the most appropriate Terrain Response setting and the result is a horrible over sensitive jerky throttle. Making for high levels of discomfort. Especially when crossing over furrows. I suggested trying the "Snow & Ice" setting as I'd read it softens the throttle response. And it worked wonders making the RRS far more comparable to a 35 year old 90 in terms of comfort. But it was only luck that I'd read up on it. Your average punter wouldn't have and would have had a worse experience in a modern vehicle compared to something old.
  10. I don't think new starters are all that expensive. Might not be worth the hassle if you are struggling with it.
  11. To an enthusiast maybe yes. As a means of legally beating other companies up, probably no. The Lotus 7 is pretty iconic, but it has never stop a myriad of kit car builders making cars that look the same.
  12. I wonder if they had been successful if they would have then tried to retrospectively sued Austin and Santana? 🙃
  13. I agree. While we as enthusiasts might consider the Defender shape iconic. It isn't, not even in Land Rover's own line up as the shape hails from the 1958 Series II, which was in itself just largely a restyling of the Series 1, which as you point out was based and a re-imaged version of the Jeep MB. If Land Rover were still producing the Defender (no, not the new Pretender). Then maybe their claim was more legit. But clearly as a company themselves they didn't consider it iconic enough to persevere with it. The new version looks nothing like the original. Some other 'iconic' 4x4's that pre-date the Defender.
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