skauldy Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 hi Folks, looking for your opinions. I have a set of genuine mach5 beadlockers. As they are beadlockers they arent road legal. I would love to have them on my truck. I was thinking what if i bolted the beadlock ont the wheel and then welded it on. Obviously a proper job coded welder and all that. What do yous reckon. shane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 (edited) What type of beadlocker are they. If they are the bolt on rim style why do you say they are not road legal because the tyre is sat on a rim just held in place instead of relying on a bead. As far as I can see there is no real difference between this type and split rims. If however they are the flat ring type then I wouldn't run them on the road and I can see why they would be illegal. Either way if you do as you say you will not be able to fit or remove the tyre. Mike Edited August 11, 2017 by miketomcat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skauldy Posted August 11, 2017 Author Share Posted August 11, 2017 Hi Mike, From reading on forums most replies were saying only the non-beadlocker were road legal, mach5 beadlockers for off road use only. I tried to see could i contact Matt to ask him the question but couldn't find an email address. Heres a pic of the wheels in question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 They look the same as mine. Personally I can't see why they would be non road legal but happy to be corrected (though I might have to find new wheels for the ibex in that case). Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skauldy Posted August 11, 2017 Author Share Posted August 11, 2017 supposdly they have to have an E mark to be road legal. Pity i cant find an email for matt lee and get a definitive answer from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daan Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I doubt any of his wheels are E marked. The only difference between the beadlock and the non beadlock is that the non beadlock does not have the lip on the rim to lock the bead. You could cut this off or claim ignorance. I would just run them anyway as the beadlock is safer, being a run flat sort of wheel. With wheels it is a case of legal untill they fall off. If you think they are safe, then run them. Daan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arjan Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 And in a few months, what is the value of the "E-mark" anyway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skauldy Posted August 12, 2017 Author Share Posted August 12, 2017 feck it, think i'll just run them as you's say . i love them and dont want to sell them. thanks Guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 That's where I got to with mine after several people told me they weren't legal. I still don't see why. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daan Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 It is a grey area, as bead locks are not legal (as in DOT approved), but split rims are. You cannot see from the outside what it is, so claiming ignorance tends to work. I think though if you start looking, any wheel (like tyres) that is not DOT approved is illegal. Almost no one, including the IVA man seem to know or understand the rules, or even know what a bead lock is. The IVA man will know about DOT approved though. A Hutchinson double bead lock wheel (which is a split rim with an insert) is advertised as being the only DOT approved bead lock available. Daan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 I thought DOT was American? Would have thought that if there was a standard that wheels had to be approved against then it would be either an EC/EU or British Standard scheme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 DOT is USA dept of transport, it would need a careful read of UK construction & use regs for wheel types in UK. road wheels/tyres http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1986/1078/part/II/chapter/C/made an earlier thread about beadlocks, but no one has found any government info to back up the not for normal road use Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skauldy Posted August 16, 2017 Author Share Posted August 16, 2017 sorry guys was away for a bit, hmm a lot to take in and consider. I agree its silly their is a differance between beadlock and split rim. To me they both seem the same. I might get a standard set of wheels and use them for the test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missingsid Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Since traffic law enforcement is determined by past cases (as told to me by traffic cop),,,,who wants to be the trial case????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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