Dust'nSun Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Hi from South Africa I appreciate the forum rules regarding advertising, but would appreciate any feedback on whether there would be any interest in your part of the world for the Defender 110 2.8i (BMW M52 engine) produced locally between 1997 and 2001. Any suggestions exploring this avenue will be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eightpot Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 If you're selling drop me a message with some details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 In what way - shipping engines over? Shipping vehicles over? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happyoldgit Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 16 hours ago, Dust'nSun said: Hi from South Africa I appreciate the forum rules regarding advertising, but would appreciate any feedback on whether there would be any interest in your part of the world for the Defender 110 2.8i (BMW M52 engine) produced locally between 1997 and 2001. Any suggestions exploring this avenue will be appreciated. Welcome to the forum and thanks for being aware of our forum rules. Please clarify the purpose of your first post here. Thanks. Admin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallfry Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 I assume you mean exporting them as a business, rather than one particular vehicle ? I am sure there would be some interest for the novelty value, and I am sure you could sell a few, but its easy enough to make your own here. I do not imagine too many people would want to pay over the odds for them, what with import and shipping charges etc. Of course I may be wrong …………...…...………. At least the steering wheel is on the correct side ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 I wonder though - What would the cost and time be for a conversion (say from a tdi era vehicle) vs purchase of a factory 2.8? I bet the final costs arent that far apart especially if you put a value on time? I’d be really curious to see how the 2.8 drives in a defender -i had one in a BMW and its one of the nicest engines I have driven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallfry Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 6 minutes ago, reb78 said: I wonder though - What would the cost and time be for a conversion (say from a tdi era vehicle) vs purchase of a factory 2.8? I bet the final costs arent that far apart especially if you put a value on time? I’d be really curious to see how the 2.8 drives in a defender -i had one in a BMW and its one of the nicest engines I have driven. It IS the time that costs, if , as you say, you put a cost on it. Also if you do not have the time, skills, or inclination, AND have the money to spend. But as the engines are only a couple of hundred quid, and the gearboxes are a similar price, although are becoming harder to get, I don't imagine it would cost that much. TBH though, one would be better off using a BMW gearbox and adaptor, which will be stronger and nicer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 3 hours ago, reb78 said: I wonder though - What would the cost and time be for a conversion (say from a tdi era vehicle) vs purchase of a factory 2.8? I bet the final costs arent that far apart especially if you put a value on time? I suspect the economical way is to ship gearboxes over as those are the only unique part, and source a crusty old BMW locally for the engine & ECU etc., unless it turns out Ashcrofts have a stack of bellhousings in their shed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 What box was it? A variation of the r380? Were there manual diesel p38 boxes that might fit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Tbh, I thought the manual diesel p38 boxes *did* fit... Same series of BMW engines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallfry Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 I thought it was an R380, similar to the P38 diesel, but with defender type gearchange. Certainly the flywheel and bellhousing will bolt straight up and I believe the same clutch setup was used. And you can still get the engine mounting brackets from LR. Probably reassuringly expensive though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Will a stumpy 200tdi r380 fit?? (I have one!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallfry Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Noooo. Bellhousing and input shaft are much longer. Also, the Stumpy setup used a housing on the back of the engine. A flywheel housing if you like. No doubt an adaptor could be made though. This would have the advantage a bringing the engine rearwards and give more clearance at the radiator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eightpot Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 They're a nice car, I've got a 90 version - yes you could build your own if you hunt around for bits, they used all off the shelf LR stuff but some of it obscure and hard to find now - but they only made low volumes of the 2.8s, and a factory car will have some collector value where a home-build hot rod project may not. Very nice to drive, tootles round much like any other Defender but with a smoother quieter engine - to get the low down torque equivalent to a V8 though (these were built to fill the void after V8s ceased production) they fitted a 1.6 transfer box - flooring 190bhp from the lights and being able to rev out to 6000rpm with a nice 6 cylinder howl is a lot of fun, but they are thirsty.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happyoldgit Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 @Dust'nSun One post and that's it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Clearly not a viable business opportunity 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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