Cornish Rattler Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 (edited) Hi guys I've recently cashed in my savings plan at work and amongst other things i'm looking at buying a Roamerdrive for my 2a, anyone else on here got one and what are they like to fit please just so i can have 3 knobs to play with 😃 Edited August 25, 2021 by Cornish Rattler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Rattler Posted August 26, 2021 Author Share Posted August 26, 2021 Looking at buying it on Saturday 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peaklander Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 Good luck with it. Is it new or second-hand? There are instructions to be followed, I'm sure you can get a copy on the www somewhere. I have the ones for a Defender in pdf file if you want to see them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 They are certainly well spoken of - on here and all over the Internet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missingsid Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 Isn't there a comment about new and older ones re cheaper bearings? I seam to recall that they suggest the fitment of their finned transfer box plate with high output engines. Though I also would like one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Rattler Posted August 26, 2021 Author Share Posted August 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Peaklander said: Good luck with it. Is it new or second-hand? There are instructions to be followed, I'm sure you can get a copy on the www somewhere. I have the ones for a Defender in pdf file if you want to see them. New 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peaklander Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 1 hour ago, missingsid said: I seam to recall that they suggest the fitment of their finned transfer box plate with high output engines That's for TD5 and up plus tuned earlier vehicles. Otherwise it isn't essential, although I have one on my un-tuned 300TDi 1 hour ago, Cornish Rattler said: New 😁 Well then you will receive all the details but fitting is easy. You do need to be careful of the oil in the TB (which it shares). It has to be GL4 spec. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Rattler Posted August 26, 2021 Author Share Posted August 26, 2021 45 minutes ago, Peaklander said: That's for TD5 and up plus tuned earlier vehicles. Otherwise it isn't essential, although I have one on my un-tuned 300TDi Well then you will receive all the details but fitting is easy. You do need to be careful of the oil in the TB (which it shares). It has to be GL4 spec. Yes i was looking online for GL4 but there are so many different spec's for it so was unsure hopfully the onstruction will be in the box unless someone can tell me, atm i have ep 140's in it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 EP 140 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 There are lots of info out there refuting that modern GL5 oils are corrosive for yellow metals …. Such mixed messages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peaklander Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 Yes but the instructions provided with the OD are very clear, as in, MUST NOT use GL5, so I guess one shouldn’t. 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missingsid Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 This for long term use if some of the testing was only short term then it will not have shown up? I found sufficient information when looking to make me NOT want to use GL5 anywhere in my S1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Rattler Posted August 27, 2021 Author Share Posted August 27, 2021 (edited) Just ordered it from Syncro gearboxes + temp gauge as well for piece of mind 😃 Edited August 27, 2021 by Cornish Rattler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 On 8/26/2021 at 8:57 PM, missingsid said: Isn't there a comment about new and older ones re cheaper bearings? I seam to recall that they suggest the fitment of their finned transfer box plate with high output engines. Though I also would like one. The magazines have speculated that the quality went down when Britpart became main distributor, including the use of cheap bearings. Mine was one of the first in the UK and that had cheap bearings too. The big main bearing was slightly oval and squealed on its high spot every rotation when dry, but it ran fine. The rest of it was very well made. I did later replace all the bearings with NSK and SKF stock. They are susceptible to sun shaft bearing failure if they run dry from a transfer box oil leak, which I learned the hard way, but I was amazed at how little was needed to rebuild it, and it had continued to provide drive after the bearing failure. It is a huge amount more robust and resilient than the Fairey type I had (and rebuilt) before. The overdrive comes with the finned transfer box plate, or at least used to. It is a big benefit, not only in reducing oil temperatures, but also in reducing leaks. Make sure you use thread lock on the grub screws securing the main shaft but inside the coulpling. I found that the nut tended to loosen with the grub screws slackening the nut a little on one side of the small amount of spline play, but would slip over the nut collar in the other direction, rather than relighted it, so the nut would get a tiny bit loose over a few thousand miles. In the end, I sorted that by marking the grub screw positions on the correctly tightened nut and then grinding slots for the grub screw tips to locate in. Simple enough, should you experience the same problem. One common issue that occurs as wear takes its toll is vibration of the linkage rose joints. A rubber o-ring between the flange of the joint and the spacer tube between the rear linkage joiunt and the selector shaft in the unit solves that - you probably wouldn’t even need one on the front joint to the lever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missingsid Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Snagger said: The magazines have speculated that the quality went down when Britpart became main distributor, including the use of cheap bearings. Mine was one of the first in the UK and that had cheap bearings too. The big main bearing was slightly oval and squealed on its high spot every rotation when dry, but it ran fine. The rest of it was very well made. I did later replace all the bearings with NSK and SKF stock. They are susceptible to sun shaft bearing failure if they run dry from a transfer box oil leak, which I learned the hard way, but I was amazed at how little was needed to rebuild it, and it had continued to provide drive after the bearing failure. It is a huge amount more robust and resilient than the Fairey type I had (and rebuilt) before. The overdrive comes with the finned transfer box plate, or at least used to. It is a big benefit, not only in reducing oil temperatures, but also in reducing leaks. Make sure you use thread lock on the grub screws securing the main shaft but inside the coulpling. I found that the nut tended to loosen with the grub screws slackening the nut a little on one side of the small amount of spline play, but would slip over the nut collar in the other direction, rather than relighted it, so the nut would get a tiny bit loose over a few thousand miles. In the end, I sorted that by marking the grub screw positions on the correctly tightened nut and then grinding slots for the grub screw tips to locate in. Simple enough, should you experience the same problem. One common issue that occurs as wear takes its toll is vibration of the linkage rose joints. A rubber o-ring between the flange of the joint and the spacer tube between the rear linkage joiunt and the selector shaft in the unit solves that - you probably wouldn’t even need one on the front joint to the lever. Great info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Rattler Posted August 29, 2021 Author Share Posted August 29, 2021 I've just ordered the transferbox fined ally sump pan to go with the roamerdrive, sender and gauge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 I've got a Roamerdrive and it's been great. Finned sump can't hurt so worth doing. Didn't bother with a gauge, just use tell-tale stickers. GL4/5 gear oil info here: https://fuddymuckers.co.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=tech:oil:bronze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Rattler Posted August 31, 2021 Author Share Posted August 31, 2021 On 8/30/2021 at 3:18 PM, FridgeFreezer said: I've got a Roamerdrive and it's been great. Finned sump can't hurt so worth doing. Didn't bother with a gauge, just use tell-tale stickers. GL4/5 gear oil info here: https://fuddymuckers.co.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=tech:oil:bronze Think i messed up getting the gauge anyway as i bought the Roamerdrive and gauge from Syncro gearboxes as they was cheaper than ebay, wanted to order direct from manufacturer as told it would be even cheaper than Syncro gearboxes but thier website was down so ordered from Syncrogearboxes but bought the fined sump off ebay then later found out the gauge is for the LT230 transfer box ☹️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 Well the overdrive shares the oil with the LT230 so it'll tell you basically the same thing. Oil-wise I just ordered a 20L drum of god quality GL4 from Smith & Allen and called it job done for the forseeable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 I bought one of these June last year : https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GEAR-OIL-EP90-GL4-25-LITRE-API-GL3-GL4-MIL-L-2105-ZF-TE-ML-02-/273757581853?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0 except it was just £48 then ? 🤷🏻♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Rattler Posted August 31, 2021 Author Share Posted August 31, 2021 22 minutes ago, Anderzander said: I bought one of these June last year : https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GEAR-OIL-EP90-GL4-25-LITRE-API-GL3-GL4-MIL-L-2105-ZF-TE-ML-02-/273757581853?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0 except it was just £48 then ? 🤷🏻♂️ Yeah was thinking of doing the same 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Rattler Posted September 2, 2021 Author Share Posted September 2, 2021 Just had an email from Syncro gearboxes saying the Roamerdrive will be sent out next week once it arrives from thier suppliers so i take it its coming from the manufacturers in Canada 😟 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peaklander Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 I thought that Britpart had grabbed the distribution rights for them. Clearly not sole rights if you are buying from Syncro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Rattler Posted September 2, 2021 Author Share Posted September 2, 2021 2 hours ago, Peaklander said: I thought that Britpart had grabbed the distribution rights for them. Clearly not sole rights if you are buying from Syncro. Yeah i tried to order it from the makers of roamerdrive as i was told i would be a lot cheaper but thier website was down so bought it from Syncro gearboxes £200 cheaper than from ebay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Rattler Posted September 4, 2021 Author Share Posted September 4, 2021 The fined ally plate arrived today, so i will fit it on Monday as well as flush the old oil out with GL4 gear oil then when i fit the Roamerdrive i can drain the transfer box again and refill it again with GL4 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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