general-confusion Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 I think the title says it all...suggestions please ,both red and black ideally needed Thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Wightman Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 If you have a local welding supplier they may be worth a try. They will sell by the metre and the cable should be flexible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakeedokee Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 you can also try most auto-electrical shops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Wightman Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 you can also try most auto-electrical shops. If Vehicle Wiring Products only go up to 35mm I would be surprised if a shop would do bigger? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jericho Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 I got 60mm from the local motor factors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
general-confusion Posted December 17, 2007 Author Share Posted December 17, 2007 Thanks Guys...Vehicle wiring products do upto 60mm sq and I was going to use this but people have told me to use 70mm for my twin xp'd 8274 even though the 60mm is rated at 415 Amps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
general-confusion Posted December 17, 2007 Author Share Posted December 17, 2007 Sorry Paul I see what you mean , 35mm in welding cable.... does it really have to be extra flexible as I thought the 60mm has 475 strands which should make it easy enought to route Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 Parkins Industrial Supplies sell all varieties IMHO 70mmSQ is OTT Now where is that Can of Worms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderman Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 70 mm2 is obtainable from most auto electrical outlets such as LSUK , Durite agents or any commercial vehicle motor factor , Mind you the price of it is rapidly climbing due to the price of raw copper at the mo . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderman Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 Parkins Industrial Supplies sell all varietiesIMHO 70mmSQ is OTT Now where is that Can of Worms I agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
general-confusion Posted December 17, 2007 Author Share Posted December 17, 2007 Ok so should I just go for the 60mmsq from vehicle wiring products ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 Well I have only ever used 35mmSQ and as yet all has been well in the cable melting stakes. I have a few extinguishers to hand if req Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicksmelly Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 If you read the other posts on the forum about winch wiring etc. The current carrying capacity isn't all about the insulation melting and things becoming glowy hot. You have to think about voltage drop and how efficient your winch will be at 9v or whatever it is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderman Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 I use 35mm2 welding cable on mine and when used in anger the pole insulators on the XP motor got hot and melted well before the the cables got any where near to being hot . And perfomance wise I have used 60 mm2 on the same winch in the past and have not notced any drop in performance when going over to the 35mm2 welding cable . Can of worms out , spilt and running riot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMc Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 This place - Furneaux Riddall sells 70mm2 (1360/0.26) flexible battery cable in Red and Black in 5m or 25m reels. It aint cheap though Paul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 If you read the other posts on the forum about winch wiring etc. The current carrying capacity isn't all about the insulation melting and things becoming glowy hot. You have to think about voltage drop and how efficient your winch will be at 9v or whatever it is? Well after 6 years I must have been lucky never had an issue on the front or rear both used a bit now and then more leisure than anything else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streaky Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 Just as a note. If you decide to use it...keep the welding cable away from excessive heat. The outer sheath is rubber and will eventually crack. I used it on my Discovery and noticed after 6 years it had cracked into smaller fragments. Luckily I also had it sleeved with a convaluted wrap. The inner copper wires were okay...just the rubber outer. Decent quality cable has a PVC sheath which has better heat resistance...the only problem with the PVC stuff is that it's not as flexible as welding cable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 90 Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 When I did my twin xp'd setup I wanted 70mm. I was going to use two albrights and it was a bit of a pain to fit the 70 in amongst all that wiring and route it to the right post on the albright so I just doubled up with 40mm, Ran a separate length for each motor from battery to albright and a separate earth from each motor back to batteries. It made routing of cables much easier and the 40mm is much more flexible for keeping it out of the way, The ends are much smaller giving more room between them at the albright end and it carries more than enough current (I suppose its the equiv' of running 80mm) The Twin motor is awesome BTW, Single line pulls through anything and it doesn't even slow on stuff that would stall a single. This was single line! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Brock Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 Well after 6 years I must have been lucky never had an issue on the front or rear both used a bit now and then more leisure than anything else Nope Tony your not lucky, your winch is just not performing as well as it could Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 Les really I'd better get some more cable then as it can snap the 11mm plasma unless I stop the winch I guess it is pulling enough and it pulls/lifts my lardy 90 every where it needs to, I'm suspicious 70mmsq is the new Mach5 but I bow to people who know better,(where's Will when you need him) In reality I think for what I use it for 35mmSq will suffice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishbosh Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 You are also fortunate Tony that your batteries are in the middle of your truck so cable runs are moderate. Us poor sods with batteries at the front and winches at the back (soon ) have a 5m cable run Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discojmz Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 if the generally suggested cabling for a 8274 is 35sqmm therefore running a single motor, and this guy is running 2 motors!!! dont know if some people havent noticed that the maths is quite easy. 2x35 is 70 im no authority on winch motors and cabling sizes but I personally dont see it being over the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 Charles why not move the batteries then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishbosh Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 There really isn't a convenient place in a RR. It is also "easier" for me (read I am lazy ) to run larger cables form the existing position rather than work out a new location, secure it and run wiring to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderman Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 When I did my twin xp'd setup I wanted 70mm. I was going to use two albrights and it was a bit of a pain to fit the 70 in amongst all that wiring and route it to the right post on the albright so I just doubled up with 40mm, Ran a separate length for each motor from battery to albright and a separate earth from each motor back to batteries. It made routing of cables much easier and the 40mm is much more flexible for keeping it out of the way, The ends are much smaller giving more room between them at the albright end and it carries more than enough current (I suppose its the equiv' of running 80mm)The Twin motor is awesome BTW, Single line pulls through anything and it doesn't even slow on stuff that would stall a single. This was single line! Was that picture at Culmhead ?? Did you get the punch ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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