Tom P Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 What would you have in your recovery kit? Just wondering what you would have in your recovery kit to cover all eventualities. thanks in advance Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 (edited) I never go anywhere without: strops shackles water proof jacket Shovel Axe bow saw high lift torch. and spares for the 90 itself. credit cards to get cash to pay farmers for recovering my sorry ass. mobile is ok but doesn't work in lots of areas around here. Did have Waffles but they got busted, so awaiting some new 50mm ones I do have winches the ground anchor has been at home for a while now though as generally there are trees available, if not I can always beg a mate to come and help. Edited December 20, 2005 by white90 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddyplugger Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 yep, as above, and I carry a collapsable shovel in both vehicles at all times too. When I venture off road I step up to carrying spare parts as well! At this time of year I also have my winter kit in the vehicles too: 1x spare set clothes 1x set waterproofs 1x set of thermals wellies (pair of) woolly hat, socks and gloves Sleeping bag Treking pole Instep crampons (a bit overkill in the UK!) I have at one time or another needed every bit of kit! (mostly in bluddy traffic jams on motorways in 1mm of snow!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 Ooooh As it happens I have just started loading things up for Christmas Jackall 2 x alloy bridge/jacking boards 10 metre 24mm nylon tow rope Milemarker on the front with 10mm Dyneema and a wireless remote (need that to plough in the Kittygripper when alone) T-Max hand winch for rearward/upside down/any other unclassified disaster recovery KittyGripper plough ground anchor Tube and pin military ground anchor Winch extension line (Dyneema) About a dozen shackles of different sizes, mostly proper rated ones Snatch block Hook chain Master ring (allows a winch hook to go onto a NATO hitch etc) Big F off wheelbrace Extra spare wheel Torch Ibuprofen (nothing worse than trying to unstick yourself with a stinking headache) VHF radio in the vehicle, and often a handheld one too Wellies Waterproof coat Spade Sledgehammer for ground anchor pins 3 x cases of beer and 1 x case of wine Toolbox with screwdrivers, adjustables, mole grips, propshaft tool, cable ties, duct tape, insulating tape, crimp connectors, a few bits of wire, pliers, chocolate block connectors 1/2" square drive socket set Spares I have just packed up for this trip include: 5L engine oil Fuel filter Wheel bearing kit Propshaft UJ's Rear shocker bushes (the new ones have an irritating habit of wearing out rather suddenly!) Tubeless tyre repair plugs Spare fan belt Spare belt for the hydraulic pump on the winch No trees in this neck of the woods hence no axe/saw etc required but 2 ground anchors required instead I tend to cart everything around most of the time when off road as the times I have been stuck and unable to get out have always been the times when I thought "oh well I'm not going far and it's quite dry so I won't get stuck today..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 For a day to day car like I use the Disco 2 for I carry 5m Kerr 3m tree strop shovel jump leads two shakles few blankets big wheel brace If I am heading for snow I will put the bridging ladders on the roof. This is not much but my disco never goes off road apart from site Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reads90 Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 What would you have in your recovery kit?Just wondering what you would have in your recovery kit to cover all eventualities. thanks in advance Tom Ok in the 90 for our off roading trip we have 2 spare tyres Punter kit and foam Tyre inflator Hi-lift jack Ground anchor 25m winch extension strop, 8 m Kentic 8 m snatch strop 5 m towing strop Tree strop. Various shackles Set of chains Pully block Jump leads Shovel 60 spare ltrs of diesel 55 ltrs of water Paris Dakar Light weight sand ladders (made from carbon fiber, nicked from Jules when he was not looking, Only joking on load from Jules) Tools and land rover speical tools. Parts , water pump , Viscus, spare front prop , spare rear prop, starter motor, alternator, 2 sets of wheel bearings, stub axel, 2 sets of UJ's, CV, end cap bolts, prop bolts,feul fitter , oil fiter, full set of turbo and water hoses,spare alloy wheel nuts and spare alloys locking wheel nut key,Clutch master , Brake master, clutch slave.Spare brass rad plugs, spare fan belts and power steering belts. Oils and stuff, spare front shock spare rear shock , spare steering damper and a few more that i can't remeber at the moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonk Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 Ali, some of those bits are service items, u never used em in this country Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 Ali,some of those bits are service items, u never used em in this country Yer weather he needed to or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reads90 Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 Ali,some of those bits are service items, u never used em in this country mmm yeah , did pride my self on that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeryDisco Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 If I'm going laning, as well as the normal recovery stuff I always take a towel and some wet wipes. And never, ever, EVER forget the cookies! Essential for last lane syndrome when you're still trying to recover yourself at 11.00pm. and useful for bribing handy looking chaps with! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom P Posted December 21, 2005 Author Share Posted December 21, 2005 Thank guys for the info Much appreciated I think its time to rob a bank Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 I forgot the single most essential thing. And this is serious in case anybody thinks otherwise. Bog roll.... It is bad enough having to dig a hole and sh&& behind a grass bog, without then having to try and wipe with a handful of grass as well.... I always keep one in the 90, sealed in a poly bag for emergencies! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonr Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 Asprin and Chocolate Milk - you won't go far wrong. Don't know what all the other stuff is for? Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 All the above is good stuff, clearly there are a lot of well equipped Land Rovers for all kinds of recovery situations. As well as the usual spares, belts, hoses etc., I carry a recovery kit and emergency first aid kit. Recovery kit includes having recovery points front and rear, naturally. Rear includes a proper tow pin, not a gooseneck tow ball, the latter should never ever be used for recovery, unless you enjoy decapitating your friends and relatives. In my bag are : gloves (rated by safety glove supplier as best for wire rope protection) tow strap gloves snatch strap (kinetic) gloves assorted high grade shackles gloves snatch block gloves towels gloves first aid kit was stocked as recommended by a paramedic who covers a lot of desert races and car launches in remote areas here in Africa and includes : re-hydration packs insect sting treatment burn packs (very comprehensive kit) antiseptic creams stomach ailment pills anti-malaria prophylactics nausea treatment heartburn relief treatment anti swelling muscle pain relief cold and flu tablets anti allergic reaction (various) muscle spasm treatment complete and comprehensive anti-diarrhoea kit all kinds of minor treatments for headaches, earaches, sore throats, etc travellers dental kit steri strips self-adhesive suture strips eye wash (useful for snake venom sprayed in eyes treatment, although water can be used, milk is better) eye wash also used for all kinds of eye problems, including dust and conjunctivitis cough syrup field dressings triangular bandages all sizes of band aid/elastoplast roll bandages large and small scissors large (soft plastic) bottle of disinfectant water purifaction kit And a bit more :-) Hope this helps, Regards, Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 I should add that I do have a hi-lift jack, base plate, winch, bog rolls, extra spare wheel, long range tanks, etc., as above. Didn't want to duplicate things :-) Come to think of it, I carried a lot of bog rolls on the last trip, which were appreciated by all :-) Campsites don't have any, so you have to bring your own and, inevitably, some get left behind in the loo. There were eight of us on the last trip for two weeks. Yes, lots of bog rolls are needed ! lol And of the right kind for the ladies ! Get the wrong ones and you'll hear about it for the rest of your life ! Taking no less than 18 of them on the last trip was about right, only 3 left at the end lol They learnt quickly how to keep their own in sight and with them at all times :-) Regards, Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom P Posted December 21, 2005 Author Share Posted December 21, 2005 Can you recommend any good websites where I can get all of the recovery equipment from? Thanks Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbocharger Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 If you're just starting out (I seem to remember you're pretty young?) then sturdy recovery points front & rear (which can be bought or made), some good tested shackles and a decent tow rope or two (different lengths) will see you right most of the time. Do what I did - buy stuff after (or ideally just before) you realise you need it! My kinetic rope came from Paddock in Matlock because they were the best price at the time, but you don't need a kinetic to get you out of the goo. Machine Mart and Screwfix both supply shackles, but make sure it's tested and you get a certificate with each one - Screwfix sell these and I'd cosh you round the head with it if you came to me brandishing it and asking for recovery - you can't guarantee the quality of the material. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom P Posted December 21, 2005 Author Share Posted December 21, 2005 If you're just starting out (I seem to remember you're pretty young?) You could say that Machine Mart seam to be more expensive then any where else i have looked, Thanks for the suggestions. I was thinking about getting a couple of jate rings for the recovery point, a few shackles 4.25 tone , tree strop, 2m bridal, and high lift jack, and a recovery rope from Devon 4x4 a ARB snatch strap. i think that will be a good start for now and as you said get extra equipment just before i need it Thanks for all the help Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Neale Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 You could say that Machine Mart seam to be more expensive then any where else i have looked, Thanks for the suggestions. I was thinking about getting a couple of jate rings for the recovery point, a few shackles 4.25 tone , tree strop, 2m bridal, and high lift jack, and a recovery rope from Devon 4x4 a ARB snatch strap. i think that will be a good start for now and as you said get extra equipment just before i need it Thanks for all the help Tom Just a suggestion... You might want to reconsider getting a kinetic rope/strap It's very very easy for things to go horribly wrong with a kinetic - more so than a "normal" rope because of the forces that can be generated by a vehicle weighing in excess of 2 tonnes. I'd strongly advise that in the first instance you make sure you've got some decent recovery points front and back, get yourself a decent tow rope / strop and go out a few times with one or two more experienced drivers. You'll soon find out what kit you'll need and what you don't. Please don't take this the wrong way, it's ok having the kit, but the important bit is knowing how to use it safely - Take a hilift jack for example.... at least one of the mods on here has had an argument with one - and lost..... mind you, it improved his looks..... (eh Will ) Cheers, Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom P Posted December 21, 2005 Author Share Posted December 21, 2005 Please don't take this the wrong way, it's ok having the kit, but the important bit is knowing how to use it safely - Take a hilift jack for example.... at least one of the mods on here has had an argument with one - I haven’t taken it the wrong way, I don’t fancy paying a visit to A&E if it can be avoided I am sure when i go off roading there are bound to be people at the event willing to give me some advice on how to perform a safe recovery. so you think in stead of the ARB snatch strap i should get a 8m 24mm nylon rope instead Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 I take loads out when I go laning, but I must say that the single most useful recovery item I take is a simple spade! It probably sees the most action anyway. I've had to build up my recovery gear mostly while at university (only got 6 months to go!) so I've had to do it on a very limited budget. If I had to prioritise a beginners shopping list of kit, it would be as follows: 1. Gloves (heavy duty leather jobs) 2. Recovery points front and rear (jate rings are cheap and easy to fit) 3.= A rope or long strop (8m or longer). 3.= 2 good sized (tested) bow shackles. 5. Spade 6. 2nd-hand tirfor hand winch off ebay 7. Ground anchor 8. Jack The big step up has to be a powered winch (priority 9!). I've not found the loot for one yet, and my current kit seems to get me out of most trouble. All that said, the most important piece of recovery kit is .... your mate in a vehicle that isn't stuck that also has suitable recovery points fitted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Neale Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 All that said, the most important piece of recovery kit is .... your mate in a vehicle that isn't stuck that also has suitable recovery points fitted. - Yep. Totally agree Tom - what I was getting at is that a kinetic rope / strop can be very dangerous in inexperienced hands (although I guess the same could be said for most recovery equipment - winch/hilift etc ) They're excellent bits of kit used correctly though. Just my personal observation this - and I reeallly don't want to come across as patronising here - but I'd suggest that if you are new to off-roading, you need to learn the basics first before you start down the line of snatch recovery. Save your money and get yourself a decent nylon rope and a couple of shackles and go from there. Try and hook up with a few people who go out regularly and watch how it's done. I'm sure that almost anyone on this forum would be willing to turn out with you and go over the basics. Look me up if you're ever down this way (Somerset) Cheers Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeryDisco Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 Same offer here - if you're over Mid Wales/Shropshire way I'm happy to show you a few lanes. I don't have kinetic rope though so I can't show you how to use / not use it! (I know it says Worcestershire on my details but I'm moving in January, near Telford/Shrewsbury) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillbilly Raider Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 as said before ANOTHER TRUCK! and also maps and knowledge of how to read them ie RUPPS/ BOATS etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom P Posted December 22, 2005 Author Share Posted December 22, 2005 Thanks for the offers showing me "how the pros do it" and I would like to take you up on those offers but it will have to be in June / July, give me time to get my 90 up to scratch and stock up on recovery equipment. Thanks for all of the advice Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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