LR90 Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Well good news is I got a shiney new 4.75 R&P and a mug of tea from KAM yesterday and stopped by Nige's on the way home for some mark 1 wheel box extensions to give the Simex a bit more breathing space. Hmm, new goodies, and looking forward to making some progress on the truck at last Nice winding road back too till the Disco's PAS decided to pop a pipe mid bend and shed all its fluid over the drivers side wheel and brake And just to really rub it in the Disco rear door decided now was a perfect time to refuse to open anymore as well, argh!! Will have a better look at the weekend but if anyone has any PAS pipes for a Disco 200 I could be looking for a set. I think from torch light its the pump to steering box one that has burst but will be tempted to change the lot while I'm at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MogLite Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Trev - I think poping out the LR badge from the rear door, and hitting it with "Nige's special fluid" (aka WD40) will sort out your door. PAS hoses. You could take the dead ones to Hypose for repair. They built the ones for MogLite from ends only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonk Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 that hose is about 30 quid + vat as a guide if u're gettin it mended which diff am i building that r&p into? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR90 Posted February 1, 2006 Author Share Posted February 1, 2006 that hose is about 30 quid + vat as a guide if u're gettin it mended which diff am i building that r&p into? I'm pretty sure its the steel pipe that has burst so not sure hyphose is the answer to this one. The diff sat in my garage with ARB and toothless ring but there's no rush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonk Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 that hose comes with steel pipe section from main dealers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B reg 90 Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 LR 90, Strange I got my 4.75 R&P the other day too. Were you on their massive waiting list as well! Just wondered if you have managed to source some of the shims for setting the pinion bearing preload yet and what you ended up paying? LR appear not to sell them and my local LR specialist has them, but at £4 each!! and you don't know what you need until you start building up the diff - end result a big bill or multiple trips to swop shims..... Adrian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guilford Dave Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 LR 90,Strange I got my 4.75 R&P the other day too. Were you on their massive waiting list as well! Just wondered if you have managed to source some of the shims for setting the pinion bearing preload yet and what you ended up paying? LR appear not to sell them and my local LR specialist has them, but at £4 each!! and you don't know what you need until you start building up the diff - end result a big bill or multiple trips to swop shims..... Adrian Ashcroft keeps the shims or strip a couple of US diffs and get a selection that way. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollythelw Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Just for Future reference - if you buy 4.75's from Bill at GBR he also does a master install kit which includes a full selection of shims Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bathtub Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Just for Future reference - if you buy 4.75's from Bill at GBR he also does a master install kit which includes a full selection of shims |Yes a very nice bloke & very helpful. My parts turned up quicker from US than UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daan Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 LR 90,Strange I got my 4.75 R&P the other day too. Were you on their massive waiting list as well! Just wondered if you have managed to source some of the shims for setting the pinion bearing preload yet and what you ended up paying? LR appear not to sell them and my local LR specialist has them, but at £4 each!! and you don't know what you need until you start building up the diff - end result a big bill or multiple trips to swop shims..... Adrian I made my own using shim material, and some holepunches. I realy hope for you guys that KAM has come up with some more christian fastener dimensions: BSF bolts for the crownwheel anyone? Not the same as a series 3 as they told me. Or what about M22x1.0 Nuts for the pinion flange . I found these in the end, but not in a crowned version, so drill a hole for the split pin. Then grind some flats on the nuts to make the Propshaft fit. Also, buy 3 r&Ps to make sure you dont get caught in the supply problem in case you break one. The idea was to do a proper job, but as usual it turned into a bodge. I have heard more stories like this and hope that KAM actualy reads this forum. Positive point: They work well once fitted. Daan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonk Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Kam pinions should just take standard 90 flanges and nuts. bolts that hold the ring on seems to vary on lr's though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon White Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Crownwheel bolts are either BSF or UNF depending on the year. Standard Landrover stuff I'm afraid. If they didnt use the imperial bolts, then the holes in your diff centres would be the wrong size! Cant get away from that I'm afraid! M22 is again standard for what LR use. If you have the wrong stuff then again other parts wont fit. Have to say I've been very unimpressed with KAM's stocking of parts in the past - he seems to wait until he has enough advance orders for a part before he bothers getting any made! Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daan Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Crownwheel bolts are either BSF or UNF depending on the year. Standard Landrover stuff I'm afraid. M22 is again standard for what LR use. If you have the wrong stuff then again other parts wont fit. Jon Which ones? I had diffs from a def 300 TDI, old range rover and S3. None of them matched up with the Kam parts. Daan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollythelw Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 thats why I shop with Bill, no supply hassles, ring, pay and look out for the fedex/dhl man, everything in the box and I have never had to wait longer than 5 working days from order to delivery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Have to say I've been very unimpressed with KAM's stocking of parts in the past - he seems to wait until he has enough advance orders for a part before he bothers getting any made! Er, I can sort of shorten that to : I've been very unimpressed with KAM. Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR90 Posted February 1, 2006 Author Share Posted February 1, 2006 You guys aren't making me feel comfortable. GBR might be nice but at the prices I saw not in my budget so I chose to wait. KAM have been good in the meantime keeping me informed and I find them very pleasant to deal with. I'm also reassured that those that have got the KAM gears fitted have been finding them pretty durable R&P was supplied with pinion nut and I've also got a set of longer HT bolts to fit with the ARB/spacer ring. Pinion shims are a problem, been there before, and now have several several diffs sans shims as a result of having to scavange them. Must admit I'll be glad when the whole saga is over though. Then I can do the front axle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripley Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Opps, dont know what happen there, see below Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripley Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 I made my own using shim material, and some holepunches. I realy hope for you guys that KAM has come up with some more christian fastener dimensions: BSF bolts for the crownwheel anyone? Not the same as a series 3 as they told me. Daan i had this problem with my KAM 4.75s, i sheared the crown wheel bolts at a nite stage of a challenge, now you try finding BSF H/T bolts at nearly midnite on a saturday, after about 3hrs we luckly found that the steering damper bracket on a early diff uses BSF bolts, not H/T, but they work, After replacing the bolts with H/Ts & the ARB drive plate, it happened again , so i would recommend pegging your crown wheels if you have time, I also carry a spare set of H/T BSF Bolts, as i still havent pegged the front diff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B reg 90 Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Well just spent the evening making up 10 or so assorted pinion shims on a lathe and surface grinder. So that 'should' sort that issue. Also got the pinion nuts and crown wheel nuts from KAM - assuming that they are the right threads for my ARB then that should be that issue sorted. He knows how to charge for them though........ Will let you know how it goes at the weekend. Adrian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will_warne Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 I'm also reassured that those that have got the KAM gears fitted have been finding them pretty durable We'll talk more at the weekend... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daan Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Well just spent the evening making up 10 or so assorted pinion shims on a lathe and surface grinder. So that 'should' sort that issue. Also got the pinion nuts and crown wheel nuts from KAM - assuming that they are the right threads for my ARB then that should be that issue sorted. He knows how to charge for them though........ Will let you know how it goes at the weekend.Adrian You also need a crownwheel spacer, which means longer bolts I vagely remember. When it comes to HT BSF bolts, you cant use Capheads which I had first, because they faul the diff housing. Also if you want to do the pegging, your diff flanges need turning down. Good luck! Daan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B reg 90 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Daan, the KAM bolts allegedly 'account for the spacer and give the maximium thread engagement' to quote Kevin Mason at KAM. Will see....... Thinking of pegging later as I want to get the motor back on the road. Adrian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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