sparg Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 I ask because I saw a stupendous hand-built 300tdi - and he'd moved the front axle forward by 2" to accommodate huge fat wheels - he said that they cleared the bulkhead this way. He'd had the chassis built specially; standard-height suspension with gas shocks. even had Kenlowe fan AND a bonnet-mounted extractor fan for deep wading (though would have thought the engine would be water-cooled anyway!). Compete with a 6-ton winch and custom, extended bumper.- Even a second snorkle for heater intake Anyway, my question really was about this moving the axle forward by 2" - looking at my TD5, I can't quite see that there's room in front of the axle 9he said there was on his, no need for modifications on that score). I presume it would need a longer front prop, and couldn't see in the dark what he'd done with the front springs/shocks. I'll have another look, and try to get a picture off him regards sparg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBMUD Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 (edited) A Td5 110 has a longer wheelbase than a Tdi 90, is that any help? ...though of course neither is as long as a V8 130 nor as short as a 2.25 88. Chris Edited to add smiley lest there be confusion. Edited March 3, 2009 by GBMUD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparg Posted March 3, 2009 Author Share Posted March 3, 2009 A Td5 110 has a longer wheelbase than a Tdi 90, is that any help?...though of course neither is as long as a V8 130 nor as short as a 2.25 88. Chris right - think that's it - the TD5 front axle is already forward a bit, compared to the tdi - don't know if it's 2" though. just wondered if here was a way to get big wheels in there without rubbing, and without a lift cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandyManLuke Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Sparg, read chris' post again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Chris is being cheeky but very funny though.... The wheelbase is not determined by what engine is fitted... There is tons of info on this board about wheel and tyre sizes and what's required to fit them - non of them involve moving the axle forwards.. Do a search for something like 'biggest tyres without a lift' or the like in the Defender forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparg Posted March 3, 2009 Author Share Posted March 3, 2009 Sparg, read chris' post again... see what you mean! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparg Posted March 3, 2009 Author Share Posted March 3, 2009 Chris is being cheeky but very funny though.... The wheelbase is not determined by what engine is fitted... There is tons of info on this board about wheel and tyre sizes and what's required to fit them - non of them involve moving the axle forwards.. Do a search for something like 'biggest tyres without a lift' or the like in the Defender forum. no, I know the engine doesn't push the wheels forwards I'll try to find out more - he reckons it's smooth as a baby's bum on the road (not sure if one is allowed to say that, nowadays) And they are big, big wheels for a non-lifted motor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeagent Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Anything is possible if you are building a vehicle from scatch, it would be a lot of work to move the axle forward 2" as all relivent brackets for front axle/ steering box would have to be moved forward (unless you make up a custom length steering box drop arm or drag link) If you moved the steering box forward you'd need to lengthen the steering column. I'm not sure its worth it personally, one of the chassis companies does a replacement chassis with all the suspension mounting points moved downwards by 2" giving you a 2" lift with standard suspension components.. this should help you on your way to a big lift and monster tyres.. in answer to your original question, the wheelbase of all 90/110 landrovers hasn't changed since they first apepared on the market in the early 80's.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T1G UP Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 All 90's are 93". All Landrovers with a coilsprung chassis's upto the disco 2/p38 era have the same length radius arms 90,110,100" RRC/disco, 127, 130 etc etc etc. Loads of wotk to move an axle forward.Not so much to move the rear axle backward. Personally i'd move the engine and box back and extand the rear A frame and arms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nas90 Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 All 90's are 93".All Landrovers with a coilsprung chassis's upto the disco 2/p38 era have the same length radius arms 90,110,100" RRC/disco, 127, 130 etc etc etc. Loads of wotk to move an axle forward.Not so much to move the rear axle backward. Personally i'd move the engine and box back and extand the rear A frame and arms. Quite a few challenge trucks use 100inch wheelbase for better stability The new Black Pig I think is 100inch Probably RR classic is about 100inch wheelbase? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 All 90's are 93". no the aren't get it right 90's are 92.9 inches between axle centres Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBMUD Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 no the aren't get it right 90's are 92.9 inches between axle centres On which side Ralph? Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 On which side Ralph? Chris both provided the chassis is straight & true & all the bushes are good/new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T1G UP Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 no the aren't get it right 90's are 92.9 inches between axle centres Bad day old man? i didn't realise that lr's worked in degrees of inches. MY 90 is 93" i've adjusted my x arms and it's square! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 yesterday was busy, but otherwise OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smo Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Back to the original topic....what size are the wheels/tyres to reqiure moving the axle?? The only reason is to clear the outrigger which means 38"+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 both provided the chassis is straight & true & all the bushes are good/new. :hysterical: :hysterical: Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparg Posted March 6, 2009 Author Share Posted March 6, 2009 Back to the original topic....what size are the wheels/tyres to reqiure moving the axle?? The only reason is to clear the outrigger which means 38"+ Yeah, they didn't look as big as that - I'll find out - he said it was to clear the bulkhead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave W Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 If you're measuring the wheelbase between the hubs then the wheel base changes according to the height of the suspension. The very idea that Land Rover could work to an accuracy of 0.1 inches ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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