bishbosh Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 As the Bishtail is off the road at the moment, I thought I'd set about improving my winch bumper. When I had it made I asked for these pin and jaw recovery points to be fitted (it was all the rage back then) Unfortunately, they aren't the best as they are fiddly to use and you cannot get a winch hook behind them as the space is too small. I decided that I would replace them with a pair of simple loops welded to the bumper. So yesterday I set off to my local scrappy / steel stock holder for a rummage in the bins. 10 minutes and six quid later I was the proud owner of 3m of 25 x 5 EA ( to stiffen the winch mounting plate that I have bent but that's another story) a metre of thick walled tube, some thick plate and a fist full of round bar As I don't have a vice, or even anything remotely robust enough to bolt a vice to, I had to do a bit of lateral thinking. My £10 workmate is made of Emmental so I took my steel plate, thick walled tube and a lardy Range Rover and did this: Throw in a bit of old gas pipe and some brute force over ignorance and you get this: You have to do this in stages to get a good radius and keep withdrawing the gas pipe as you bend it I needed an internal radius of 100mm to fit the bumper. The first two were a bit small but the next two weren't bad…. B) Now all I have to do is cut off the old ones and find some kind soul who will weld on the new ones……… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Nice job Charles make sure your choice of welder is competent. Maurice welded my rear winch mount for me. Although thick steel is somewhat easier to weld than thin stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Looks the business Bish, tidy job too. Are you going to drill the bumper and put the ends through and weld from the inside? Les. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishbosh Posted February 24, 2006 Author Share Posted February 24, 2006 Nope, the ends will lie on top and beneath the bumper allowing two runs of fillet weld about 75mm long, like this: Even with a teeny 3mm fillet weld the recovery point will be worth about 15te (before safety factors and assuming the bar is stronger, which it isn't - about 5te.) They will be positioned in line with the chassis rails so the bumper will have two stiffening gussets in the C section too. Two of them on the front should see me straight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthdicky Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Two of them on the front should see me stuck again Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishbosh Posted February 24, 2006 Author Share Posted February 24, 2006 I'd like to publicly state, for the record, that I haven't been stuck for six months now! So there!! Of course, it might help if I had actually driven the damned thing since Tony's birthday!! Anyhow Dicky, you're not exactly squeeky clean now are you...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthdicky Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Anyhow Dicky, you're not exactly squeeky clean now are you...... Uh oh Erm... I have no idea what you mean (no, honestly - I don't ) Dare I ask - PM if it's anything bad! Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Fight, fight, fight, fight! Too late now, enquiring minds want to know the details. Les. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MogLite Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 That is a bl00dy clever technique - I'm gonna remember that one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark90 Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 So yesterday I set off to my local scrappy / steel stock holder for a rummage in the bins. 10 minutes and six quid later I was the proud owner of 3m of 25 x 5 EA ( to stiffen the winch mounting plate that I have bent but that's another story) a metre of thick walled tube, some thick plate and a fist full of round bar Sounds like a handy place to know, so go on tell me where? My welding mate is a bugger to get hold of at the mo as he's busy with school work, otherwise I could probably get him to do it for a pint. You in a rush? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 My local steel stockist lets people rummage through the off-cut bins. The steel for catflap's rock sliders cost me £35. I think the cash they get for off-cuts is a bit of a bonus for them, as they always say "you didn't want a reciept did you"? Les Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark90 Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Not everywhere seems happy to let you rummage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landrover598 Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 The local steel merchant has now introduced a £25 +VAT minimum spend, including offcuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M005 Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Of course, it might help if I had actually driven the damned thing since Tony's birthday!! Glad someone else uses theirs as much as I do mine, apart from the odd run to the gym to keep it turning over it just sits there........even thinking of selling it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Mark if you do I can sell the wheels/Tyres for you. PS have you noticed the winch challenge for May in the getting out there forum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishbosh Posted February 24, 2006 Author Share Posted February 24, 2006 Relax Dicky!!! Just pointing out that you've been stuck your fair share too...! Mark (90), the steel scrappy bloke is on Winterstoke Road in Weston. You'll probably know it -on the LHS as you leave town opposite the entrance to Halfrauds. Mark (005) - I don't plan on keeping it that way........ , and you can't sell it coz you're teamed up with me again for Tony's Birthday..... and you promised to get a winch too........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M005 Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Mark (005) - I don't plan on keeping it that way........ , and you can't sell it coz you're teamed up with me again for Tony's Birthday..... and you promised to get a winch too........ IF I do, I may get something for ~£1500 - £2000 to bash around in and spend the rest on a new bike & upgrading my Audi (have to spend it quick, otherwise the Sandbag will) Oh, and there is the small matter of an impending hybrid arriving Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthdicky Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Relax Dicky!!! Just pointing out that you've been stuck your fair share too...! Phew, I think I must have a guilty conscience! Yeah I'm very capable of getting stuck myself Unfortunately the last time was in the car rather than the 90, but at least it's easy to push out of fields Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark90 Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Mark (90), the steel scrappy bloke is on Winterstoke Road in Weston. You'll probably know it -on the LHS as you leave town opposite the entrance to Halfrauds. Think I know where you mean, just near Nuts and Bolts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishbosh Posted February 24, 2006 Author Share Posted February 24, 2006 That's the one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark90 Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Might pop in for a rummage next time I'm down that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbocharger Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Speaking of which, since I'm working at the illustrious bus company's depot in Weston (behind Asda) next week, who fancies a pint on Monday or Tuesday about 6pm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishbosh Posted February 24, 2006 Author Share Posted February 24, 2006 Either suits me, although going for a drink in Weston is abit of a lottery... Got any decent welders in that depot TC? I'm not working Monday or Tuesday so I could pop round with the bumper...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbocharger Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 Monday's better then - suggest a drinkery with a big car park? We don't have a welder at all I don't think - most of the fabrication that doesn't need gaffer tape or pop rivets is contracted out Besides, I can't even 'borrow' antifreeze... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 who fancies a pint on Monday or Tuesday about 6pm? Blimey, Turbo's getting his wallet out. That'll make the newspapers! Could anyone take some pictures please, this'll be a rare moment. Les. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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