Les Henson Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Flares are like for like - double (mushroom-shaped), or single (like a trumpet). End fittings the same - same thread and male or female. You can put a long male fitting in place of a short one, but obviously not the other way round or the joint may not tighten. If you don't want/need to change a very long brake pipe - such as front to rear, for instance, then it's fine to make a join in the old pipe by using a male and female fitting with the appropriate ends (single and double in this case). If you don't have any end fittings then it's fine to re-use the old ones if they are still in good condition. Les. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 I've had the cheapest type for years and it works fine, I find a quick practice on an offcut to remind yourself of how far the pipe needs to stick up from the tool helps make a decent job. Saying that, I hate faffing round with copper pipe so all mine are braided TFE now just push the end on and do it up with spanners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwhacker Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 FridgeFreezer where do you get the braided stuff and the fittings from? It was always a good mod on motorcycles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_d Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 http://www.thinkauto.com/ http://www.bgcmotorsport.co.uk/ Are the places I have used for braided brake, clutch and oil pipe/fittings. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 What Steve said - I use the "cheap" TFE stuff from ThinkAuto. It does work out relatively pricey compared to copper (~£250 to do the entire truck) but as I said I hate faffing about with copper, plus I can work on bits and just move them around - swing any caliper out of the way to do wheel bearings/discs etc., I changed the brake servo without undoing any pipes and all you need to re-make a hose in the field is spanners (although spare fittings/olives are a reasonable idea too). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted March 13, 2010 Author Share Posted March 13, 2010 Well after much searching I have on route: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 this finished yesterday http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360241005851&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_500wt_1182 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Hancock Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 Well after much searching I have on route: I have had one of those for years, works fine on copper or cunifer pipe, but i do use a dab of red brake rubber grease as a lubricant for the die in the pipe end to avoid it tearing or scuffing the joint surface. It was originally bought to do the rear chassis steel pipe on an old 109" 2a that was fine apart from the last 18" or so so an in line joiner and a short cunifer section, job done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickeyw Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 Jeeez! That fetched a fair few quid. [Old man mode] I'm bluddy sure mine was nowhere near that expensive (15 years ago) [/Old man mode] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted March 17, 2010 Author Share Posted March 17, 2010 Well mine appeared with the Postie today I got it for £25 inc postage which I was very pleased with The seller Was great to deal with he even sent it before the ££ arrived with him Nice to deal with good old fashioned honest folk. just got to do some trial flares to see the best way to use it. Also got some Irwin bolt grip sockets for removing rounded nuts/bolts Got them from Ebay where one seller is selling the base set and the expansion set delivered for less than the price of the two items minus postage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diff Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Well mine appeared with the Postie today I got it for £25 inc postage which I was very pleased with The seller Was great to deal with he even sent it before the ££ arrived with him Nice to deal with good old fashioned honest folk. just got to do some trial flares to see the best way to use it. Also got some Irwin Vise grip sockets for removing rounded nuts/bolts Got them from Ebay where one seller is selling the base set and the expansion set delivered for less than the price of the two items minus postage. Glad you found one Tony, I have had mine for more than 20 years - brilliant tool! If you don't have the instructions, I think I still have mine. Give me a shout if you want me to copy them for you. Regards, Diff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted March 17, 2010 Author Share Posted March 17, 2010 Yes please that would be a great help. I have been searching for one for a year almost to the day. then I found this one in Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diff Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Yes please that would be a great help. I have been searching for one for a year almost to the day. then I found this one in Scotland. See if this is ok, if not I can send it to you. Regards, Diff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted March 17, 2010 Author Share Posted March 17, 2010 That is superb thanks I have sent it to Mrs C for printing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted March 18, 2010 Author Share Posted March 18, 2010 Diff many thanks again I made the front to rear supply line today and with the instructions the new tool made spot on double flares. the old line was pointed out in my two MOTs but I was told to clean it and grease it, today when I removed the old one one bend and it cracked wide open. the copper lines had been on the rear axle for less than 4months were also ruined and broke when they were removed to replace them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickeyw Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 today when I removed the old one one bend and it cracked wide open. Scares me when this happens, makes me start thinking 'ooops what if.....' the copper lines had been on the rear axle for less than 4months were also ruined and broke when they were removed to replace them. How come? I have heard that some type of copper pipe does not like fatigue and tends to harden as a result. But brittle enough to snap? Just a thought re posting details of stuff seen on ebay - many of the posts higher up this topic have links to ebay items that are no longer listed, so today's newcomers can't see what the posters have been talking about. Pictures would be far more valuable, maybe with the ebay link next to them. Just my 2p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Hancock Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 I think you will find the reference to the pipe snapping was a steel pipe that looked reasonable but was being changed after a couple of advisories about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted March 20, 2010 Author Share Posted March 20, 2010 Nope the copper pipe as well it had fatigued after being pulled from the axle then pushed back it had been puled far enough to almost flatten the pipe where it enters the caliper I just pushed it back into place but when I came to remove them to fit the new braided lines it snapped. The ebay references were tools. I prefer posting pics now I have replaced all the rear lines The Fronts are next on the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 Mine will be copper-nickel when I do them on Monday, as that's what I have here. In time I will go flexi too though, for reliability and also ease of servicing the hubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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