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my 110 is so rough to ride in, it feels like the suspension is solid!

do they do softer ride springs for them, or can i use rangie springs, or something like that?

i'm not going to be carrying anything heavy in it, apart from me!

CURLY

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I think you first need to work out whats on there at the moment...

Softer fronts are available easily, softer rears might be harder to come by unless you have HD springs or something at the moment, as the 110 uses larger rear coils.

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its got a 2" lift kit on it at the moment, but i dont mind lowering it a bit if it means a comfeyer ride. might stick some rangie rear springs on it cos i've got some!

see how that goes..

CURLY

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its got a 2" lift kit on it at the moment, but i dont mind lowering it a bit if it means a comfeyer ride. might stick some rangie rear springs on it cos i've got some!

see how that goes..

CURLY

Never fit, you have 7" dia. springs on the back.

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they probably are cheapy ones looking at the other mods the guy did!

might fill the back with bags of sand, that should make for a smoother ride.. he he

i'll put stock springs on my e8ay list..

cheers,

CURLY

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ooh, was going to ask about this too! where's best to get the station wagon ones from? oh, extra newby question, how do i know if i have self levelling suspension or not?

cheers

if your 110 SW has self levelling rear suspension, get under it & look for a lrage gas strut in the centre of the A frame, it'll be attached to the chassis at the top & to the rear axle top bearing at the bottom end.

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Standard rear 110 hardtop, soft top, truck cab and unlevelled 110 station wagons until approx late 1990s all had the same 330 lb/in rear springs which are often referred to as Heavy Duty or HD.

110 Station wagons with self levelling suspension had 180 lb/in rear springs. These are too soft without the self leveller. This is because the self leveller provides additional 'spring' capacity.

Many cheaper lift kits achieve their lift by using heavier duty springs. The spring rate on your 'lifted' springs could be as high as 400 lb/in.

Due to the large diameter of 110/130 rear springs there are not many 'standard' ones to choose from:

1. 180 lbs/in

2. 330 lbs/in

3. Recent models are fitted with a progressive rear spring which has a ride similar to the 330lb/in springs but progresses to around 400lb/in I believe.

I had the same problem looking for value for money springs for my 110 station wagon. I have a 'custom' set up which has the 180 lb/in springs with VW Polo rear springs inside them on custom made mountings. This gives a combined rate of about 280 lb/in which suits my use very well.

The easiest option for you is to try the standard 330 lb/in springs.

Regards,

Diff

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If it's got a cheapy lift kit on it the springs could well be rock solid to give the lift (many lift kits are) so going back to standard (as per Diff's post) is a good start.

Paddocks/craddocks/LR dealers/Any decent LR specialist will be able to supply springs, they're not expensive.

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Uprated Springs;

90 -

Front: rate 255lb, raised 45mm.

Rear: rate 295lb, raised 40mm.

Front (pair) - (1) - LL1106

Rear (pair) - (1) - RA1351RAISED

Car Set of 4 - (1) - LL1108

110/130 -

Not self-levelling suspension.

Front: rate 255lb, raised 45mm.

Rear: rate 295lb, raised 40mm.

Front (pair) - (1) - LL1106

Rear (pair) - (1) - LL1107

Car Set of 4 - (1) - LL1109

i found this from Rimmer brothers..

also i found some that were rated at 510lb too! reckon thats what i have got on mine!!

are rimmer brothers any good, or should i keep looking?

CURLY

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one option is to go for the soft 180lbs springs from the self levelled 110SW and then fit air helper springs (normally fitted for those who tow heavy weights and do expedition stuff),

these air springs can be inflated to various pressures depending on what you need at the time, so you could fit the 180lbs springs and then alter the pressure of the air springs to get the ride comfort and ride height you desire. Then if you do need to load your 110 up, you can just pump them up a bit more.

Completely adaptive rear spring rates!!!

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Just go and buy 4 standard 110 springs from a non-levelling model, and try them out. They really arent expensive and i dont think it can go far wrong.

Rimmer Bros ime are very expensive though.

For the front, you want NRC8044/NRC8045 (which are the same as discovery rear springs)

The rear you have two options, either NRC6904/NRC6389 Which are 330lb and classed as "HD" or RKB101111 which are the rear springs from TD5 onwards D110's and are progressive, starting at 270lb then climbing to 420 as they're loaded up.

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I would try the RKB101111 as I suspect that will work well for you if you are light. Normally you should be in the soft part of the spring and only move to the heavy part with loaded up.

Next choice would be the Old Man Emu 752 as it is lighter and taller than stock. But try the genuine ones first as they should be cheap...

Last choice would be the self levelling ones with airlift bags, which is probably what I would do, but that is not for everyone.

http://members.shaw.ca/jbarge/springinfo.html#OEM

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