ThreeSheds Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 No problem - I can see the big difference between being cut in half or just killed now Also, is anyone else getting FireFox telling them the link is potentially dodgy? According to Chrome the security cert has expired, so I have no idea what you are all talking about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmgemini Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Why are people tying ropes together ? For the time taken to tie the ropes together you could have put an eye splice, which should have been there in the first place, in the time it takes to tie the ropes. Of course in this day and age rope is very difficult to get. Where can you but hemp or manila rope today ? As for tying up at the quayside. Why use a knot ? I was taught to loop the rope, is it a rope ? or a painter, or cordage ? LOL over the bollard and let the weight of the boat holsd everything tight. mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
errol209 Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 According to Chrome the security cert has expired, so I have no idea what you are all talking about Expired, but still correct. The link is to a low risk .pdf. All it does it recommend joining the eyes of recovery straps by putting the standing part through the eye of the other strap (both sides) and then wedging something in the overlap to allow you to undo it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streaky Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 We've taken the Soft Shackles on board to join two ropes together. These are made from Plasma rope and utterlise a turbin (sp) knot. Does anyone use them in the UK? Last years Dakar event saw the death of one Japanes co-driver when he got hit in the face with a flying wire winch rope that snapped during a recovery. These ones are rated at 10 tons.Before these came available I used to use a rolled up ewspaper to join two ropes in teh same way as the rolled up towel. I have an amazing video clip from my days in Saudi when we used 8 x 10 meter straps on a single recovery to get a GMC YUKON out of a massive sand bowl. Buying a rope thats long enough to cover all recovery tasks isn't always possible Steve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 may get some of these.but they are quite expensive compared to rated steel or alloy shackles. http://www.apsltd.com/c-796-equiplitehightechsoftshackles.aspx http://www.colligomarine.com/Softies-XL-Large-Boat-Series-Soft-Shackles.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Is that a porn link? when I click on it I get - There is a problem with this website's security certificate. The security certificate presented by this website has expired or is not yet valid. Security certificate problems may indicate an attempt to fool you or intercept any data you send to the server. We recommend that you close this webpage and do not continue to this website Les Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 We've taken the Soft Shackles on board to join two ropes together. These are made from Plasma rope and utterlise a turbin (sp) knot. Does anyone use them in the UK? Last years Dakar event saw the death of one Japanes co-driver when he got hit in the face with a flying wire winch rope that snapped during a recovery. These ones are rated at 10 tons.Before these came available I used to use a rolled up ewspaper to join two ropes in teh same way as the rolled up towel. I have an amazing video clip from my days in Saudi when we used 8 x 10 meter straps on a single recovery to get a GMC YUKON out of a massive sand bowl. Buying a rope thats long enough to cover all recovery tasks isn't always possible Steve. I know - I think the longest combination of ropes I have ever seen in use was about 400-500 metres - we were towing a couple of Portakabins across mud flats and then a river using three tractors pulling chained together up on hard ground on a nearby ridge. The last tractor had a big old trailer on the back as "defence" in case the rope snapped! Sadly long before the days of digital cameras, some time in the mid 80s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Is that a porn link? when I click on it I get - There is a problem with this website's security certificate. Les[/b] not, it's just the security cert is slightly out o date or incorrect, works for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeds Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Slight aside, the larger the diameter of a bollard the larger the apparent strength of the rope. When you give results on tape/rope tests you should give the ASTM/BSI standard etc used so meaningful comparisons can be made between apparent strength. Correct knot for tapes being joined together is a tape knot. If heavily loaded it is difficult to undo. Andy at Ruff Tracks was looking into making soft shackles sometime back. No idea what his conclusions were though. When, not if, but when something goes wrong with straps joined together would you prefer to be hit around the back of head with a flying shackle, a log, a rolled up magazine or a fleece?? Brendan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyb Posted September 28, 2009 Author Share Posted September 28, 2009 Cricky I never imagined a simple "here's something you might find handy in a PDF" link would get so heated.......even to the extend that it is suspected to be porn! For the record, I have no idea how you find porn on the internet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 ^^^^ Bl***y troublemaker you are Andy Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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