hobson Posted May 8, 2010 Share Posted May 8, 2010 After reading the article in this months Land Rover Monthly about the new fully LED replacement healights, i thought, "mmmmm! they look good, i'd like those" thinking i could justify a few hundred quid for indestructible, waterproof headlights that last ages, maybe three or four hundred quid even.... imagine my surprise at the actual cost they were smart enough to not put in the mag: £1400.00! i think i'll stick to 90% bulbs! -it seems the old saying 'if you need to ask how much it is you can't afford it' is very much true! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
errol209 Posted May 8, 2010 Share Posted May 8, 2010 £1400.00 The way technology prices fall (just look at PC memory [£100 per megabyte in 1993], blue LEDS [£7.50 each in the mid 90s]) it won't be long before they are into the realms of "vaguely affordable" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted May 8, 2010 Share Posted May 8, 2010 Are full LED replacements legal then? Certainly would be a good replcement for the ageing bulb tech we all use now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted May 8, 2010 Share Posted May 8, 2010 Are full LED replacements legal then? Certainly would be a good replcement for the ageing bulb tech we all use now. according to the LRM article they comply fully with the EU/UK regs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted May 8, 2010 Share Posted May 8, 2010 Yup, the price is a bit of a shocker !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobson Posted May 8, 2010 Author Share Posted May 8, 2010 They did seem to make a huge difference, but then, so did the 90% bulbs i fitted, but the LED ones looked even better, with better light spread too, not to mention being incredibly water resistant and lasting ages. but i agree with errol, maybe in a year or two's time they might be a bit more sensible, lets just hope there are plenty of Landys about to fit them to! if anyones got deep pockets check them out: led lights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adafish Posted May 8, 2010 Share Posted May 8, 2010 have seen them in the flesh,fitted to the very vehicle of Lindsey's...They look odd, but by god are they bright, he has now had fitted a set of LED stop/tail, front side lights, and indicators all round..Supplied by the same company, and the front SIDE LIGHTS, have full time DRL.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted May 8, 2010 Share Posted May 8, 2010 By the time we can afford them, Britpart or Wipac will be making them and they won't be any better than what we have now Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted May 8, 2010 Share Posted May 8, 2010 £1400 Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heath robinson Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 Even the running lights are £325 a set!! It'd be cheaper to buy a new set of Britpart ones for every time you make a night-time journey!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top90 Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 I get the feeling if you need to laugh at or fall off your chair at the price, you are not in the target audience. They were not really developed for LR enthusiasts. They are available to us only because they were developed for the military who have a slightly higher budget than most of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich_P Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 They were not really developed for LR enthusiasts. They are available to us only because they were developed for the military who have had a slightly higher budget than most of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Member Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 The justification that the military uses is that the halogens are too easy to shoot out. These are harder to kill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 These are bullet proof as well ? Remarkable ! Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Member Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 They use multiple lights and reflectors so a single bullet does not kill them. Anything hitting a sealed beam or halogen kills them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobson Posted May 10, 2010 Author Share Posted May 10, 2010 I'd have thought a 7.62 round going through any light would knacker it! i spoke to a guy in France recently in a Tomb Raider 90 and he had the LED sidelights fitted, but said they were too bright initially and looked like he had the brakes on all the time so he had to fit a resistor to take them down a bit. i think it's great the technology is there for us landy lot to get better lights than the standard ones, but it'd be nice if it were a bit more sensible price wise, i'm not talking britpart prices but something that most people would fork out for.... then again, if LED were affordable for the masses there'd be a lot of unhappy bulb companies.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich_P Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 The only problem with even brighter lights is that if you're the traffic coming the other way, you can get blinded by them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top90 Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 If they are not correctly aimed, you're right. However... I have adjusted the headlights on the FFRR down from the legal position when it passed the MOT as they were blinding people even in the correct position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redneck Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 A couple of pounds worth of LED's sold to the MOD for £1400!!!!!! I really am in the wrong job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich_P Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 If they are not correctly aimed, you're right. However... I have adjusted the headlights on the FFRR down from the legal position when it passed the MOT as they were blinding people even in the correct position. I am not sure if this is me, but it looks like more cars have poorly aligned headlights these days than they used to, too? I know on my father's C5 the headlights appear to aimed waaay higher than any other car on the road, but they're at the correct level and pass MOTs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marysboy Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 I am not sure if this is me, but it looks like more cars have poorly aligned headlights these days than they used to, too? I know on my father's C5 the headlights appear to aimed waaay higher than any other car on the road, but they're at the correct level and pass MOTs? You're certainly not the only one - see here and sign the petition clicky link Ian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tris Cocks Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 A couple of pounds worth of LED's sold to the MOD for £1400!!!!!! I really am in the wrong job. All it takes is "NSN 99-....." (Nato Stock Number) infront of the serial number and youve got a licence to print money! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 I know on my father's C5 the headlights appear to aimed waaay higher than any other car on the road, but they're at the correct level and pass MOTs? It's probably because they are so close to the ground. I didn't realise people still drove Sinclair C5s Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 A couple of pounds worth of LED's sold to the MOD for £1400!!!!!! I really am in the wrong job. If you can buy headlight-spec LED's for a couple of quid the world's car manufacturers and lighting companies will beat your door down, high output LED's are still quite specialised and only just starting to come into the realm of affordable. Unless you want to solder 1000 cheap LED's to the front of your truck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redneck Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 If you can buy headlight-spec LED's for a couple of quid the world's car manufacturers and lighting companies will beat your door down, high output LED's are still quite specialised and only just starting to come into the realm of affordable. Unless you want to solder 1000 cheap LED's to the front of your truck High output LEDs are available and in use in numerous applications, you can get the cree high output LEDs for about £15 each add a collimator for a couple of quid and you have a bulb far more powerful than any legal halogen bulb. Various dive torch manufacturers have been using them for some time now, they ditched 50w halogens years ago in favour of HID's and now LEDs are surpassing all but the highest output HID's. The only problem is making the collimator to give you the correct beam for road use, a bit of moulded shiny plastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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