honitonhobbit Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 Andrew I've known Fridge (JU) for many years. He's a clever bloke - very clever. He's alos reliable, helpfull and many other good traits. But he has a problem. He has limited vision in the sillyness department - it was mostly used up building that somewhat impractical steed he drives. The thought of a 200+ bhp BMW oil burner in a 110 has given me feelings I thought had gone now I am no longer needed to provide ingredients for prodgeny. If you have 8K to spend AND it has been signed off by The Long Haired General; then do it. Ignore any advice as to practicality and sensible spending. Just do it. Then send me the pictures... I know if I win the big win tomorrow or Saturday night, I'm taking a trip to see Jezzer. Diesel Power - there is no power as pure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticbadger Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 I have to say that I agree with the clever Hobbit. The diesel may not have the instant omph of your 3.9, but it's going push your eyeballs through the back of your head in the mid range. Do the wise thing and spend the money, you know the 110 is a keeper, so look at it like a way of upgrading to a new car, without changing the actual car. Then post pictures so that we can copy you.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Cleland Posted November 12, 2010 Author Share Posted November 12, 2010 Don't worry - I'm pretty much decided this is the way to go and even have vague approval from the management ;-) JF is busy with putting the same engine into a Pinzgauer until the New Year, so it'll be a few months yet but I promise photos and video when it's done. I'm also looking forward to next summer with the Lightweight, fully stripped down of back body, doors, windows and windscreen folded flat, with the 3.9 burbling away - I can feel a pretty minimalist exhaust going in there.... ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Nelson Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 Further to Fridge's comment above, although I now have a couple of 6.5 V8 Chevies and have learnt to love them, I have to say that I wouldn't put one in a Landrover. The best US diesel I've driven is actually the Izusu 7.3 in the Ford F series... FWIW the 7.3l Powerstroke in the Ford was an International V8 diesel, not Isuzu. GM puts the Isuzu diesels in their trucks now because the 6.2/6.5 was so problematic. The 7.3 was a pretty good engine, it originally started out as the 6.9l in ~1978: http://www.dieselpowermag.com/tech/ford/0703dp_international_diesel_engine/index.html Nice engine but ther is no practical way to put one in a LR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bush65 Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 FWIW the 7.3l Powerstroke in the Ford was an International V8 diesel, not Isuzu. GM puts the Isuzu diesels in their trucks now because the 6.2/6.5 was so problematic. The 7.3 was a pretty good engine, it originally started out as the 6.9l in ~1978: http://www.dieselpow...gine/index.html Nice engine but ther is no practical way to put one in a LR. Perhaps the 7.3 from an F truck wont fit in a Land Rover, but the Duramax engine from a Chevy will - a South Aus member on aulro.com has fitted one into a 110 Defender link to build thread here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToyRoverlander Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 I'd second this, with the addition of "neither do the yanks" *cough* Cummins *cough* Those 6BT's are just plain awesome! If only they could be sent on a diet There's only one engine I would consider stuffing in a 110 and that's Toyota's 1HD-FT, the 24valve straight6 4.2 Td. Plenty of power/torque and very reliable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longlandy Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Sorry to pull up this thread ,but it isnt that old. A cummins 6bt onto a zf 5 42 is the perfect match, done loads of them pulls like £$$£ dead reliable and the same consumption as a tdi. There is some pics of mine and a irish chaps conversions on landrover addict forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJB Serenity Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 this thread has upset me, I love my 200Tdi and am proud to have it in my Land Rover. You guys are mean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticbadger Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 I'm happy to jump back in at this point, as finding a decent engine to put into a Landrover is one of my pet favourite subjects. Matt is right the 7.3 Powerstroke is of course an International engine, not of Isuzu origin, I was muddling it up with the Duramax. And it is a tight fit and heavy in an F350, so you can forget putting it in a Landrover. I have to second Toyroverlander's view on the 1HD-FT (24 valve motor from the later 80 series Landcruiser) as I have run these engines at nearly 400hp / 525lb/ft in marine applications and can honestly say they are awesome. But then I think that i'd want the nice Toyota axles, sensible Toyota interior, and really I should just buy a Landcruiser.... The 6BT is a good engine, well regarded and well supported, but it weighs over 500kg and isn't exactly compact. I'd love to see the build threads on how to squeaze that into a Landrover, as there's a guy on the Chevy HD forum who had to do some work to fit one into a 7 ton chevy Here's two 390hp Landcruiser engines fitted to something way less sensible than a Landrover: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozsug Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 The 6BT is a good engine, well regarded and well supported, but it weighs over 500kg and isn't exactly compact. I'd love to see the build threads on how to squeaze that into a Landrover, as there's a guy on the Chevy HD forum who had to do some work to fit one into a 7 ton chevy Few posts for you http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopic=23202 http://picasaweb.google.com/gmookher/CliffhangerDay2InclPreRunVendorFairAndMoabRimDay3#5253957848128968498 http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=708183 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honitonhobbit Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 this thread has upset me, I love my 200Tdi and am proud to have it in my Land Rover. You guys are mean Don't worry old lad, I also love my 200Tdi (my fifth now) and as I don't have £8k I won't be going down Andrew's potential route. If I was to ask The Wife if I could spend £8k on my Land Rover, I would be eating hospital food for months... Anyway the 200Tdi is one of the best sub 3.0ltr diesels ever made. I'm in the process of building up a spare one, which when built will go in the 110. This will be a Disco/Defender hybrid lump and will be special - not quick just sweet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longlandy Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 Heres a old pick of a cummins6bt I put in a 6x6 I made. The engine has no intercooler at this stage as I just wanted to get it going to test the drivetrain etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chayten Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 i have just fitted a mazda slt 35 into my challenge truck. What an engine it is, loads of power all through the rev range. I think the twin turbo conversion i have just ordered for it should make it even better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yostumpy Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 Why not just buy an oldish mid 90's Toyota landcruiser and transplant the 4.2 t/deisel, and the g/box/ t/box and axles with locking diffs., then weigh in wats left over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
q-rover Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Just out of curiosity, is there any more news regarding the OP project? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inaine Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 td5, auto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TS888 Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Why not just buy an oldish mid 90's Toyota landcruiser. Fixed it for ya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimAttrill Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 West4x4 posted: "Big 3.5 mazda turbo you can get conversion kits to fit the v8 mounts and gearbox mate has one in his 110 its fast and still fast towing a 101. The Japs know how to do good big diesels" I hate to pi$$ on your parade, but the Mazda 3.5 was designed by Perkins ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolbulldog Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 I'm doing the m57 conversion. Total cost should be in the £1000> £1500 region. Engine plus ecu's £450 Rallyaid harness £300 Paul can remove the BMW security for extra, and give the 184bhp 6 220 ish. So you get double the overall power of the 200tdi. I love my 200tdi, and it's quicker than most. But laden up for overlanding it just doesn't cut it. The big old diesels are just the same. And I'm not putting Toyota running gear on my Landrover, that's far more work than this conversion, and they have their own weaknesses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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