Pastycrimper Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Hi All, I was just shopping around for a complete service kit, and while browsing noticed the Britpart Filter Guard (example here) which appears to be an adapter that fits onto the oil filter specially designed to remove tiny metal fragments. The theory sounds sensible although a) I typically stay away from Britpart things and b) Surely if these were so great there would be much more discussions on the forums - I can't find any threads on it either here or with other 4x4 forums. Is it worth it? Or is it just a pointless gimmic that doesn't really do much? Thanks in advance, Ziggy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 If it's not pointless, you are far better sticking a magnet to the outside of the filter to do the same job, any old speaker or similarly strong magnet would do exactly the same job IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromit Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 58 quid buys a lot of filters / beer / flowers for the missus / etc. In fact, go to ebay, go to advanced search, and search for "Land Rover" with Buy Now and a Max Price £58. There are 79,385 items, most if not all of which are more useful than anything made by Britpart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweetyduck Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 surely the sump magnet does the same job ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 surely the sump magnet does the same job ? Probably dont get such a consistent flow of ALL of the oil past it though as you would through the filter and i doubt its big enoughto be that effective (i presume you mean the little magnet on the drain plug?). A big magnet clamped to the base of the sump might work ok, but you'd have to remove the sump to clean out the debris. As Bowie suggests, a magnet on the filter would probably be the best option. There are some made that clamp around the curvature of the filter. Just remove them at filter change time and put them on the new filter. No hassle removing the metal bits from them then either as they are not in direct contact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastycrimper Posted April 20, 2011 Author Share Posted April 20, 2011 58 quid buys a lot of filters / beer / flowers for the missus / etc. In fact, go to ebay, go to advanced search, and search for "Land Rover" with Buy Now and a Max Price £58. There are 79,385 items, most if not all of which are more useful than anything made by Britpart. Well I totally agree. I don't touch Sh*tpart as a golden rule - I had just never seen something like this. I like your ebay search method! Probably dont get such a consistent flow of ALL of the oil past it though as you would through the filter and i doubt its big enoughto be that effective (i presume you mean the little magnet on the drain plug?). A big magnet clamped to the base of the sump might work ok, but you'd have to remove the sump to clean out the debris. As Bowie suggests, a magnet on the filter would probably be the best option. There are some made that clamp around the curvature of the filter. Just remove them at filter change time and put them on the new filter. No hassle removing the metal bits from them then either as they are not in direct contact. I think I'll just try wacking a load of harddrive magnets that I've got on my filter. Although that said surely the filter removes such fragments anyway? Does anyone know what the minimum particle size the oil filters normally remove? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweetyduck Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 If its britpart one they remove anything larger than a 20 pence piece. Seriously though i think its about 30 micron about half the width of a human hair. Thats gonna get most things.... I'm sure it depends on the filter make though. I doubt Britpart would buy substandard fiters and they will be made in a factory that has QA and testing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweetyduck Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 I've been sucked into the type the word "filter" - google search - repeat search and add more words - looping nightmare.... Seems like quality filters go down to the 10-12 micron area with pretty high efficiency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromit Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 If its britpart one they remove anything larger than a 20 pence piece. And i'll think you'll find a 20 pence piece won't stick to a magnet. Best not to keep your change under the oil filler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastycrimper Posted April 20, 2011 Author Share Posted April 20, 2011 I've been using Coopers filters. Anyone got any complaints about these? Are there any other filters (aside from Britpart!) that should be avoided? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oakmaster Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 In fact, go to ebay, go to advanced search, and search for "Land Rover" with Buy Now and a Max Price £58. There are 79,385 items, most if not all of which are more useful than anything made by Britpart. made me laugh! - thanks for brightening up this day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromit Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 I've been using Coopers filters. Anyone got any complaints about these? Are there any other filters (aside from Britpart!) that should be avoided? Always used Coopers and never had any problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve200TDi Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 You would think that when Land Rover designed this engine they fitted/designed a suitable filter to meet there requirements, so why change it? It's like the 'magnet on your fuel pipe' All of these things will only collect the 'magnetic stuff' so what about all of the ali and stainless and bearing material?! Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickeyw Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 That device just looks like an extra filter, as in making your filter bigger/last longer between service intervals! Maybe it has a finer element than the one beneath it. I would have said just using a decent brand filter would have been OK, and oil changes as stipulated by the manufacturer, or more often if you choose. I've used gen LR and Coopers filters for years. My other thought is that you only need this device if you use blue box branded filters :lol: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Range Rover Blues Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 It's not a new idea and I'm sure you can get a pair of the magnets for the outside of you oilfilter for less money. It can't do any harm and probably will help. I've sene in the past kits for bypass filters, these filter about 1/4 of the oil flowing to the engine but filter if far far better so thst they get so much muck out the oil stays almost clean. kits were over £100 though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 "Britpart Filter Guard removes potential engine damaging metal particles from your oil.Clean oil works better than dirty oil with reduced friction and less wear. Britpart's Filter Guard is an inexpensive way of removing the harmful contaminants that conventional oil filters can miss. The contaminants are fine metal particles which act like an abrasive on the fast moving parts in your vehicle's engine - dramatically shortening engine life. Filter Guard works by magnetic filtration technology resulting in cleaner oil which your engine will thank you for by running better now and in years to come. The Filter Guard will never clog or restrict the all important oil flow. > Improves fuel economy > Extends engine life > No vehicle modification needed > Added protection for stop & go driving and towing > Cleans engine oil for 50,000 miles/80,000kms > Does not effect your Land Rover's warranty Added protection for your engine! " Hmmm, coming from Britpart thats like saying "Peter Sutcliffe is good with a hammer, ....have him round to put a shelf up for your wife" Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastycrimper Posted April 27, 2011 Author Share Posted April 27, 2011 Hmmm, coming from Britpart thats like saying "Peter Sutcliffe is good with a hammer, ....have him round to put a shelf up for your wife" Nige BRILLIANT - Cheers Nige. I love the way any thread that loosely is based around Britpart ends up being full of laughs and jokes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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