discoinferno Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 best you apologise then Tony, I have never posted here before under any ID I don't know you, you don't know me What a friendly forum where one can see an interesting looking truck in a discussion about Q plates, take an interest, read a link you posted, and get acused of dual identities....I like it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discoinferno Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 undoubtedly a loaded first post then your overly interested posts smells a little odd IMHO i do smell a little odd you are right, what a keen nose you have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 well then Sean I'll apologise. Friendly forum indeed it is odd occurrances happen. overtly intrested in certain topics with pointed questions are a little less common. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro_Al Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 Surely that doesn't mean that the points rules don't still apply? That vehicle when it was adwarded a Q plate was for arguments sake a Rangie of some sort. If you then modify the chassis, change axles, engine, make a body out of tube etc you don't have enough points left to claim its the same vehicle and surely you have to SVA again? In monocoque chassis type cars, the body is important and counts regarding the tests. In separate (land rover) type chassis situations the body doesn't mean anything. You can turn it into a big pink boob if you like - you might end up looking like a nipple, but it wont affect the test at all. Moglites panel body doesn't matter. If you're going to ask about applying the rules, at least check what they are first. (Disregard this if it was a general Q and not about Moglite in particular). I don't think the addition of a cage is considered chassis modification. It's not that he changed EVERYTHING and has no 'points' left. A lot of it is original. Al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollythelw Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 Surely that doesn't mean that the points rules don't still apply? That vehicle when it was adwarded a Q plate was for arguments sake a Rangie of some sort. If you then modify the chassis, change axles, engine, make a body out of tube etc you don't have enough points left to claim its the same vehicle and surely you have to SVA again? playing devils advocate - tell me where and what is recorded for a Q plate? Im happy I just stick to my Series 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discoinferno Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 (Disregard this if it was a general Q and not about Moglite in particular).Al. ok i'll disregard that what pointed questions? i just thought we were discussing it i'm off to look for a sea plane and a q plated rangie on ebay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillbilly Raider Posted August 30, 2006 Author Share Posted August 30, 2006 Now just hang on a moment!!!!! you have got my rag up now! When did i imply that i was questioning Andy and the legal remifications of his Moglite? I asked if... as he had just gone through the system if he would explain it to me! ... nothing more NOTHING less!!! if i go OffT... I AM WRONG if i go On T... i AM WRONG and to make matters worse i am accused of setting up a thread for the purpose of getting at Andy!!!! When this forum was set up i was encouraged to come along ( and i quote) whatever imput i give was welcome???????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro_Al Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 ok i'll disregard that Don't go disregarding too much, there's a technical point in there somewhere... Jez, you and your standard trucks. You'll never get that bog standard 1960s landy through a swamp... Al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discoinferno Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 I'd like to replace any sensible questions I may have asked with the following statement to avoid controversy "that's pretty" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonk Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 well personally i think it is a valid question considering there is alot of build projects going on just lately, pitfuls to watch out for etc. i see no need for people to get all het up about it. if its a problem that alot are facing then its good to discuss imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollythelw Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 I must have missed something - I thought they were all valid questions, ask what you want kids, hopefully between the lot of us we can come up with some answers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 Chill Pill Time FFS Right Q Plates SVA Points system Tin Of worms. I wrote an article for one the LR mags a while back, this was the points system, and if you could have 8 then the original identity of the 4x4 was ok and you kept your plate Q Plates are where you have REPLACED like for like a lot (ie its a rover V8 but not the right one cos that went bang) etc, OR you have built a 4x4 out of a selection of bought bits, although the 4x4 look ok points wise they are not the origional items etc SVA is a stage further that comes into play when you F about with the chassis, and shortening it, cutting overhangs off, or reducing wheelbases means it scroes zero points. SVA will give a Q plate to, but a Q plate really just says 2Odd" "Identifty unsure / unproven", and a Q plate has been around a long time, and was if you like a pre runner for SVA. Some old RR and LR are Q plate too, for all sorts of reasons, bought never registered imports rebuilds etc Q plates are here and everywhere. Andy has a Q plate, don't know the details and none of my business, but he does have a number of units Gearbox engine chassis etc which move to the points system, Bodywork is irrelevent as mentioned earlier. Dependant on what you have, what you have done, and how you read the nightmare of rules is then a route you go, I doubt Andy absolutely needs an SVA its a huge change visually, but in real terms tubbe added to chassis (ok) and Potrals, less on points than some other look a like LRs Mandy, unusual for you to post on topic, are you ill ? Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillbilly Raider Posted August 30, 2006 Author Share Posted August 30, 2006 Nige remember the conversation we had the other day? bout OT postings????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 Well HBR you post 99% OT stuff then suddenly a very direct set of questions related to a specific vehicle. believe me I'm not the only one who thinks you were primed. If your Rag is up I suggest you put it down again as I'm none to bothered either way as I like all can choose to not look at posts by any member. best please yourself really Tony the above thoughs are my own and not related to the Forum that is LR4X4.COM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillbilly Raider Posted August 30, 2006 Author Share Posted August 30, 2006 Am not going to get into a "disscussion" on open forum about this other then to say if as you say "we" can choose what to read or not to read.... why does it bother you and others so much? wish we had a crying smiley cause thats how i feel... but like you said you aint bothered and thats what counts right? yours truely HBR who posts S*** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MogLite Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 I'm not prepared to discuss my interpretation of the rules on an open forum. I'm happy The DVLA are happy Nothing is stolen When did I ever say I didn't SVA it ? Did anyone ever say agricultural - no !! Complete picture - nah Nothing more to see here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBMUD Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 What a lot of excitement for a Wednesday afternoon. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonk Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 Did anyone ever say agricultural - no !! thats why its zetor orange then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discoinferno Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 I sure love a happy ending, brings a tear to my eye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillbilly Raider Posted August 30, 2006 Author Share Posted August 30, 2006 who make you cry then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top90 Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 I'm not prepared to discuss my interpretation of the rules on an open forum. I make you right Andy, But, for a friendly forum it seems to have gone a bit haywire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugwash Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 wow this is a confusing thread for an afternoon after a long lunch! no idea what is going on- but there are some interesting questions on here. Can't say i have any interest at all about whast Moglite has had to go through personally to get his car sorted- i kind of assume that if a chap can build a vehicle of that quality then he can manage to wade through a bit of government regulation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveG Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 It's not fair - the whole world is against me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugwash Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 the whole world is against me! whys that then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon White Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 Regardless of anything, I'd have said something like Andy's moglite I'd have thought would have been a pretty good case for being registered as an agricultural implement. IIRC it is then immediately exempt from SVA, mot and road tax. You supposedly have to do less than 5 miles a week on the public highway (which is probably true in andy's case!) so i'd have thought it'd be perfect! I've no idea if this is what Andy has done - but it seems like a sensable thing to do to me! Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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