Ibex94 Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Hi Guys, I have an 02 plate L322 Rangey which I want to fit some Goodyear MTR's on for the Winter. Concern is that that are only S speed rated. The manual specifies off road tyres with speed ratings Q/T subsequently stating that vehicle speed is then limited to that of the tyre speed rating. Is it therefore acceptable to fit S's? Does anyone know what Dibbles view on this would be? Many thanks Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
q-rover Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Just because a tyre is has M+S marked doesn't mean it is suitable for winter/ snow. An MT is about the worst tyre there is for winter roads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 110 Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 As stated above a MT tyre wont be great especially on ice. A decent AT tyre like BFG AT or General grabbers AT2 will be fine (they are all season tyres). Used some BFG AT's during winter in Switzerland and couldn't fault them. General Grabbers AT2's are currently fitted to my 110 and they where great the last few winters. If not, go for some proper winter tyres (michelin 4x4 alpin for example). An S rated tyre for speed means max 112mph. Q is 99mph and T is 118mph which i doubt you will be reaching in winter conditions. HTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishbosh Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 IIRC the tyre needs to be rated for the max speed of the vehicle and second the above comments on choice of tyre for the winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Most winter tyres won't have as high speed rating as normal summer tyres -it's common practice on the continent to fit lower rated tyres to your car for winter, you just have to keep the speed down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibex94 Posted October 7, 2012 Author Share Posted October 7, 2012 Thanks for views guys. Just to clarify - my vehicle has 19" rims so from searching around I can only find General Grabbers and MTR's in the right size. (Preference from previous experience would be BFG's but they just don't go big enough.) I am also a small holder and use vehicle off road throughout the year so I'm looking more than just good wet road performance. I don't have any experience of the new Grabber A/T's are they any good on wet muddy fields? How bad are MTR's on road? Thanks for advice again. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orgasmic Farmer Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Can confirm that in Germany when fitting winter tyres with a lower speed rating it is a requirement to have a dashboard sticker with the Max speeds of the winter tyres clearly shown (and to not go over that speed obviously!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishbosh Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 I can confirm that the MTR's are rubbish in the mud. Had them on my RRC years back. Looked the part but failed to live up to expectations comprehensively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smego Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 I don't agree with the generalisation that mud tyres are rubbish on ice, its not the pattern that matters but the type of rubber compound, the temperature range the tyre is designed to operate in is the important bit! "winter" tyres are normally rated for 8 degrees and below in the uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishbosh Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Compound is part of the issue, but siping is also very important. Mud tyres have little or no sipes. Check out this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=jon= Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 I don't have any experience of the new Grabber A/T's are they any good on wet muddy fields? How bad are MTR's on road? I ran the old General AT2s on a previous vehicle and they were fine in all conditions including snow. The AT2s got me round the Abingdon 4x4 Festival pay and play course which was mud / wet grass / gravel etc. When the backs wore out I put the newer ATs on which were also fine - better than the AT2s on road (quieter at least). I didn't try the newer ATs off road, but although they look less 'bitey' all of the magazine reviews say they are better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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