gadget Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 I'm picking up a 300TDI discovery for use as spares and as my front diff pan is holed I wondered if the front axle of the Discovery would be a direct replacement for the 110? Is it a bolt off - bolt on job or is it a little more involved? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reiny Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 As far as I know, it's a bolt-on job. The breather may be a bit different (TD5s have a push-fit fitting, 300s have a banjo bolt). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off Road Toad Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 The panhard rod is larger on the TD5. You may need to alter the bracket on the 300 axle. Otherwise it's pretty straight forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Depending on the age of the axle the radius arms may also be different, Later axles have a wider radius arm you can tell the difference by sight as the wider ones have a triangle/point on the bottom of the curve, or just measure them!! as for the breather you can just get a screw thread to push fit adaptor for a couple of quid to sort out that issue. Jason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Err 110's have bigger calipers so you will need to swap them to. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverik Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Err 110's have bigger calipers so you will need to swap them to. Mike The early ones did, after a certain year they were standard across 90/110 and I belive they were the same for the disco too apart from some models had the 2 port set-up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gadget Posted December 19, 2012 Author Share Posted December 19, 2012 Sounds promising. I'll measure the radius arm and panhard brackets on it once it's here. Thanks chaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off Road Toad Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 The radius arms will be the same from a 300 axle to a td5 one. My 97 disco has smaller front calipers than my 98 defender 90 does. I would check this and worst case just put your original ones on, no big deal though. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gadget Posted January 10, 2013 Author Share Posted January 10, 2013 Radius arm brackets are the same size Panhard bracket is much smaller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gadget Posted January 10, 2013 Author Share Posted January 10, 2013 After more reading it appears that the panhard rod changed between 2002/2003. 2002 or younger and it would fit. Looks like i'll either have to get mine repaired or find a replacement axle casing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 If the axle is OK other than the hole in the diff pan. Get a new HD pan welded on, useful upgrade so you don't need a diff guard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gadget Posted January 10, 2013 Author Share Posted January 10, 2013 I have a nasty suspicion that the original diff has blown and punched a hole in the pan and casing at an earlier point, and it's been "repaired" and a replacement diff fitted. I'll only know how bad the casing is once it's apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gadget Posted January 20, 2013 Author Share Posted January 20, 2013 To strip my existing axle... After removing the calipers, can i unbolt the swivel housings from the axle casing and pull the hub, swivel and half shaft out in one? Then remove the diff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Yes you can, but bear in mind they are quite a weight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gadget Posted January 20, 2013 Author Share Posted January 20, 2013 Yes you can, but bear in mind they are quite a weight Scary heavy or just sweary heavy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gadget Posted March 19, 2013 Author Share Posted March 19, 2013 I had a little time yesterday to start taking the axle off and spotted something. The upper panhard bracket isn't part of the chassis as per my Discovery. It's a bolt on thing in the Defender. NTC9462 looks to be the same part from Discovery and Defender. Thinks: Can I not simply steal the bracket, panhard rod and axle from the 300TDI and fit to the Defender? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Scary heavy or just sweary heavy? Sweary, especially when getting the shaft to engage with the diff again, but not too bad in all honesty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aragorn Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Fitting the NTC9462 bracket should allow you to use the earlier panhard rod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Sweary, especially when getting the shaft to engage with the diff again, but not too bad in all honesty. I'd personally go the strip route. lining up the shaft with the weight of the swivel hanging off would be a PITA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 I'd personally go the strip route. lining up the shaft with the weight of the swivel hanging off would be a PITA. Done it, honestly, it's not that bad, a lot less work than stripping the whole axle down for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 I wouldn't see it as hassle... good opportunity to check things over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverik Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 The bolts that attach the swival ball housing to the axle caseing are 12.9 grade high tensile steel bolts, with 12 points, its also good to check these and in my opinion change them... these after all hold your wheels on ultimatly. Mav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gadget Posted March 19, 2013 Author Share Posted March 19, 2013 I'll be having new bolts and new nylocs too. Some clever person had applied threadlock to the entire thread of all 14 swivel-axle bolts!!!! It took some time to wind them out. Swivels are off. The one with the long halfshaft is a bit unwieldy, but not too bad to handle. I'm having a mid bolt cracking cuppa and pondering the best way to remove the axle casing. It's currently on axle stands and i have the front of the chassis on blocks. Is my best plan to raise the chassis until the springs are not in compression? Do i need to remove the radius arms from the chassis to make life easier? Oh, and one last thing. DON'T use a cheap spanner to undo the bolts. Spanner shattered under the force and yours truly punched the ground as it let go. Arse! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Some clever person had applied threadlock to the entire thread of all 14 swivel-axle bolts!!!!It took some time to wind them out. Think that's standard from the factory! Just be grateful they didn't fall off Is there not enough room to pop the spring out as it is? Without jacking the chassis further? Otherwise your idea is sound, I tend to find I need to stick a jack or big lever bar between chassis and radius arm to free the spring as the bushes tend to bind a bit depending on the springs you have. However, if you remove the radius arms the springs will come out of their own accord, getting them back in is a little different though, jack method works here quite well, standard Disco/RRC bottle jack works here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 I'll be having new bolts and new nylocs too.Some clever person had applied threadlock to the entire thread of all 14 swivel-axle bolts!!!! It took some time to wind them out. Swivels are off. The one with the long halfshaft is a bit unwieldy, but not too bad to handle. I'm having a mid bolt cracking cuppa and pondering the best way to remove the axle casing. It's currently on axle stands and i have the front of the chassis on blocks. Is my best plan to raise the chassis until the springs are not in compression? Do i need to remove the radius arms from the chassis to make life easier? Oh, and one last thing. DON'T use a cheap spanner to undo the bolts. Spanner shattered under the force and yours truly punched the ground as it let go. Arse! They are always FT when you undo them. Bear in mind the threadlock should be applied to the start of the threads so it will go all the way up when the bolt is wound in. I supported mine as high as I could by the dumb irons and then dropped the axle as low as I could before rolling it out on some old skate board wheels and a fence post. I left the radius arms attached at the chassis end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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