Hybrid_From_Hell Posted May 29, 2013 Author Share Posted May 29, 2013 Rightyho then To the top bit I have today made up a tube (52mm CDS) same as the cage, and added in a Vertical tube from the X to the top Horizontal tube, I know from earlier feedback that this was needed, took a ferkin age to get the Frog Mouths rights for the two X tubes and the top tube but happy with the result ..............and its now welded in good and F properly So, I have this nice Top Fairlead, which is a unit made from 4 x 90 degree diary grade stainless 4mm thick wall steel, tig welded for me by a tame mate who did this before I did my Tig Course !....is a work of art and I have rumbled it for yonks so its now super smooth and around 2.5" OD tube and around 5" wide etc. It need to be fixed to the rear horizonatal frame of the cage, a la like here : And, if I am honest I am confused as to how to do this and where to put gussets or tubes, I have some tube and even my logic says to run a horizontal tube from the main horizonatal rear cage tube to the X on the roof ? but then I just go around in circles with thoughts I was thinking of getting a chunk of playe (6-10mm) boring a hole into it so the donut sit in it a bit but well proud, and then Tigging top and bottom but as to how to weld / mount the plate I just have no idea ???? HELP (again) Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hybrid_From_Hell Posted May 30, 2013 Author Share Posted May 30, 2013 Fantastico Absolutely superb - Thankyou I can now make something that is correct rather than "FITAAH" * made Thickness of plates / mounting 6mm ?, or I can go thicker ??Nige *Finger In The Air And Hope" Stylee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishbosh Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 5mm will be plenty. Not that saying that will have any impact of course.......... The vertical stiffeners need to be about 6" tall to spread the load into the tube as gently as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted May 30, 2013 Author Share Posted May 30, 2013 Ah just 5mm ? Yup I have some feeler guage stuff I can chop up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CwazyWabbit Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Just use the stuff you wrap the roast chicken in for Sunday lunch ..... I bet the tin foil is at least 5mm thick at yours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishbosh Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Come on then. Where's the finished product??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zim Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Nige, have a look at my thread on here. We made gussets that work well. We've used the centre winch as both a front and back without bending it. We're on a TSS with bow 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted June 4, 2013 Author Share Posted June 4, 2013 ^^ ta Zim And with the above and Sir Bish of Boshvilles superb helpfull drawing HFH Towers leap into action today after about 5 coffees and a bacon sarnie, Top plate / ball time for the centre winch 1st some serious CAD design (cardboard Aided design) saw this as a translation from BishBoshes drawing : This had the tubes, and fillets and shape of the top plate But before that a Tube running from the top bar to the cross X on the roof was made : And welded in place "Big Time" Then the CAD piece was converted with some time and effort into 6mm plate mit hole : and then TIGged welded from underneath and a TIG MIG combo to the top of the plate : The the fillets were made, these are 2" at the top, 1" at the bottom and rounded off and 11" Long the plate welded in so many planes its quite unreal ! And then when the assembly has cooled down a lick of paint : Hoping this passes the BishBoshsealofapproval But happy with the finished process, which is very different if I had (wrongly) done my way !!!! I can see the simplicity and cleverness in this set up, far beyond my knowledge, thanks again Charles So, next is to fit a Goldfish Remote from David Bowyer, and wire it all up, this will have a plug for a wander lead and internal control as well so there is far more yet to be done, but the main platework is now I think sorted More laters Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishbosh Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 That looks good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted June 5, 2013 Author Share Posted June 5, 2013 Phew ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zim Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 That looks good. That looks familiar G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishbosh Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 ....if a "little" HFH'd.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Does it still fit in the garage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted June 6, 2013 Author Share Posted June 6, 2013 Ooooooooooooooooooojust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted June 6, 2013 Author Share Posted June 6, 2013 Not much further but some ...... The Goldfish can have a very neat air free spool, I made the ones I have on the front russian military "Thing" and the one on the rear PTO driven Milemarker, took an age of "3 Bears" type "Engineering" So, I boight one from Bowyer, impressed. Soleniod, comes in bits takes about 15 seconds to assemble (makes you wonder why not assembled !) Ready to plumb in to the ARB lines maybe tommorow. And then you undo the screw holding the freespool lever with winch in locked position, grab the freespool unit, put 2 washers on top of the remains sticking up on the winch and pop the unit on and do the new bigger bolt in and job done ! Tested by air line in it and works superbly " Simple and dead easy to fit, there is a selection of bits to allow me to hopefully "t" into the ARB without going hunting for bits - Neat !! Which leaves the power wires x 3 and earth to the winch, I had some old cable in the workshop, so new ends, heat shrink and some old boots see F1 F2 and A wired up, these are "Underneath" now, and the earth is at the top. So, winch can now go back onto the mounting for hopefully the final time, and the wiring continue tommorow maybe ?Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon White Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Does it still fit in the garage? Of course it does........you do realise the whole reason he's fitting this is so he can attach the winch rope to the beam in the garage so he can winch it off the ground to stop the tyres flat spotting where it never moves for so long........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted June 15, 2013 Author Share Posted June 15, 2013 And love your new Avatar Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted June 16, 2013 Author Share Posted June 16, 2013 Well, some more done this weekend......... Wired up the Goldfish Motor, F1 F2 and A have short wires, and then I have a long wire for power going to the passenger side of the rear bulkhead, same with the Earth....all have rubber boots covering terminals, I will also make a cover for the soleniod arweas ahen all finished for saftey of shackles and snatch block landing on 1500 amps worth of sparkyness (and yes lost the wingnuts !) Bit of fabbing and altering gives me a nice easy access "Kill Switch" for the winch 90 Ft of 12mm fits on neatly - I have to sort out the remote more, I ma going to have a Socket mounted on the top of the kill switch unit for a plug in wander lead, and then a MON on / Off MOM On switch in the roof consolde, so I can have it controlled from either inside or outside......also need to order some big grommets for the wires from the Kill Switch Box through the bulkhead as couldn't find anything anywhere !! Bent uop a Hook for the rope to fix to, done here as easy to get to, and I can see it for respooling from drivers seat !, done on the High lift mount (also altered to give gap for rope) so that if it goes wrong it just bends a couple of M10 bolts !! Rear view, coming on now, just need to make up long harness for the 2 x controls / remotes, and sort the air to the freespool prev fitted bolt in hydro tank now have the new extended joiner main feed, and a few other bits, but it lives (of a fashion) Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickeyw Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Very nice, hope it still fits in your garage with that donut on top of the cage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Some good work there Nige. One thing I have been recommended is that the solenoids shouldn't be mounted on their side, this can cause them to stick, either in open or worse case closed position, and are much better with the terminals pointing down. If it's the original Goodwinch solenoid rather than an Albright, I would look at smearing some silicon around it, as they aren't quite as waterproof as they could be for whatever reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Looks good Nige. I'd be interested to know the weight of your truck ready-to-play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted June 17, 2013 Author Share Posted June 17, 2013 Hardy Ha We had all this long time ago, and I took it to the Guikldford weighbridge and it was no where near as heavy as peeps think. http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopic=1081 Now truck cab with 52mm CDS Cage vs Hardtop and BS1353 48.3mm Thick wall cage ....springs are lighter ratings than before so it weighs LESS Yes I know in the old Hybrid Jon White collapsed laughing when he found a 35mm x 10in x 10in square lump of steel under the cuibby box as a "Lifter" .....but I'm not like that anymore Much ... Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon White Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 You'll regret using that plastic kill switch........I've melted far too many of those they're carp! Spend the money now and upgrade to one of the decent durite metal handled ones..........you have been warned! I still don't believe you'll ever use a remote. Mount a switch on the dash, maybe another one on the box where you're proposing to fit the socket. Job done. Nobody uses remotes these days....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon White Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 carp........lol........I see the childish anti-swear filter is still in force.........a bit pathetic really IMHO....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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