eds Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I would like some friendly advise :-) Which option would you choose............ I have been offered what is considered a good quality disc braked Salisbury axle complete for £600 from a later vehicle Or should I do the Diesel Jim conversion on my current 1993 drum Salisbury axle Both options would need new callipers and discs. £600 sounds expensive for an axle, but would the cost outweigh the saving in hassle. Also confusing is the news that my stubs are better setup with wider spaced bearings. Is this crucial to the decision? Looking forward to some help. Thank you :-) Ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 £600 is a lot for a used Salisbury, especially if the calipers & discs need replacing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eds Posted September 25, 2014 Author Share Posted September 25, 2014 It does seem a high price. It is in the same town as me and supposedly grade A and still on the donor vehicle so I could verify that. The bloke selling me it says they are hard to come by these days. It will come with discs and callipers but they do not want to sell me them for health and safety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 It will come with discs and callipers but they do not want to sell me them for health and safety. They sound like muppets to me. Salisburys go on forever unless seriously abused so buying a low-mileage shiny one is not really gaining you much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbs Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Ed, you could take the £600 you're going to pay for the axle and use it to get all genuine parts for doing the conversion to your original axle and still have a lot of change left over John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eds Posted September 25, 2014 Author Share Posted September 25, 2014 I think he was specifically referring to the disc version as they are always bought up to upgrade drums hence the scarcity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eds Posted September 25, 2014 Author Share Posted September 25, 2014 I was worried about the 6mm spacer and I also thought all parts would be around £1000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbs Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Ed, This looks like two of the brackets you'd need to do the conversion-listed as one brackets though http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Land-Rover-Defender-110-Caliper-Mounting-Bracket-ftc3306-/221558440155?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3395e980db John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete3000 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 did mine for under £400, wanted to keep the wide spacings also, as well as retaining the axle number. Just onto doing the front with vented bits now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Did a rear disc conversion to my drum braked axle on my '89 110, had some spacers made locally, I have a set of 6mm & 12mm thick spacers spare (both new unused) found I needed 10mm spacers to make it all work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eds Posted September 25, 2014 Author Share Posted September 25, 2014 Watching that ebay, thanks for the tip. Western, that is a kind offer, could I buy them? :-) I did not know that an alternative sized spacer is possible, how would I know which to choose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbs Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Glad I could be of help John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Over inflated price, not worth it. Convert the axle you've got. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulcan bomber Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 The disc braked salisbury under my 110 cost me 400 quid, that was 8000ish miles old after being bought brand new from Land Rover. Imho the different wheel bearing spacings make sod all difference..... Maintanance does! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Watching that ebay, thanks for the tip. Western, that is a kind offer, could I buy them? :-) I did not know that an alternative sized spacer is possible, how would I know which to choose? Yes no probs, have replied to your PM. these fit between the caliper bracket FTC3306 & the axle flange the stub bolts to. A old forum member did this thread http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopic=11685&hl= my conversion within this thread http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopic=60726&page=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 That's my ebay listing for the bracket. I was going to do the same conversion and started collecting bits, then was persuaded that it would be simpler to just swap in a whole TD5 axle. In the end, I replaced most of the components on the TD5 axle I bought from a breakers as they were shot. It would have been much cheaper to just convert the existing axle to discs. I also have a pair of brake discs that I collected and tried to use for the TD5 axle having forgotten that I had bought them for the old Salisbury axle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eds Posted September 25, 2014 Author Share Posted September 25, 2014 Well thanks for the ebay buy it now, had I known you were a forum member I might have been cheekier with my offer!! Western you have confused me now by bringing in multiple spacer depths. If I am following Diesel Jim's guide then I thought 6mm was clearly the only option. I could not quite understand your link re differing disc sizes. When you did your conversion did you use FTC3846 discs and STC1268 calliper? Do you know why you ended up using 10mm. Will I not know the size until fitting....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eds Posted September 25, 2014 Author Share Posted September 25, 2014 Looks like I'm now committed to upgrading my current axle........... :-) Just need to solve the spacer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Some where in the garage I should have the 6mm spacers western had made for me as if you has a look in my ibex 300 build thread I didn't need them. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eds Posted September 26, 2014 Author Share Posted September 26, 2014 Mike I tried to search through your thread to find the reason you did not use the 6mm spacers but could not find the answer. Could you let me know. Am I not going to know what spacer to use until I am rebuilding the axle. What I did read made me think about balanced braking between front and rear, do I need a thing to adjust braking pressure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 I used ftc7329 disc, not sure on caliper part number,bought those from a member on LRO IIRC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete3000 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 calipers stc1268 & stc1269, discs as above^ use rtc3511 double lip seals, order 5 or 6, the first one you scrap you can use to knock the good ones in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete3000 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 copy/paste of bolt info from the longer thread, thread is worth a read. http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopic=60726&hl= "Bolts for the caliper brackets were (per side) 2x 48mm M10 8.8 Set Screw 2x 58-60mm M10 8.8 Set Screw with 2x M10 nyloc 8.8 2x 35mm M10 8.8 Setc Screw with 2x M10 nyloc 8.8 Bought 50mm Bolt and 60mm Bolt but unthreaded portions will not go into axle bracket enough, So needs set screws fully threaded. The outer edges of the 6mm spacers MUST be flush in line with the radius of the caliper bracket or the disc will foul the radius portion. the inside by the axle tube is not as critical. RTC 3511 oil seals need to be tapped in gently with another scrap rtc3511, to obtain one first try to fit seal using a block of wood. which collapses the seal nicely. The seal inner lip needs to be under the lip by 1mm-the main lip should be recessed by 4-5mm. Don't forget to put the greased wheel bearing in first." Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eds Posted September 26, 2014 Author Share Posted September 26, 2014 I thought the discs are FTC3846 as 110 rear discs Why would I use ftc7329 as Western and PEte3000 does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 What I did read made me think about balanced braking between front and rear, do I need a thing to adjust braking pressure? I worked out a complete 110 system to possibly fit to my 109 which does not have any brake balancing involved, you'll find the thread in the part numbers board I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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