Anderzander Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 What are those little nylon straps called - that have an eye on each end and are used to hold the first spools of winch rope onto the drum ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigelw Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Known as a, winch rope retainer, winch rope security strap, found one for you http://shop.challenger4x4.com/winch-rope-retainer-317-p.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted February 8, 2015 Author Share Posted February 8, 2015 Thank you ! Really hard to search for some things when you don't know their name ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigelw Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 I only knew what they were from a Frogs Island video on splicing plasma rope when I refitted the winches on the horse trucks with plasma and got rid of the old wire ropes. Great idea and much safer than a grub screw! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonr Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 I was given one by someone at a show - and was surprised (and pleased) how well it worked! Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoSS Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 How does it work? I presume you thread turns 4 & 5 though it on the drum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted February 9, 2015 Author Share Posted February 9, 2015 I saw it on YouTube - 11mins in on this video ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigelw Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 That's the video, the plasma came in 30mtr lengths but only needed 15mtrs on the winch, did 2 out of a pack, got one left to do but it only had a new winch 3 months ago. The splicing went easier than I first thought it would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Idris Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Neat, but I like to snare mine. I splice a loop a foot long in the end, put it through the fairlead, around the drum and back out, feed the hook through the loop and pull tight. Then we know that whatever daft stuff goes on the rope is around the drum, and it's a lot easier to remove for cleaning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbekko Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Huh, that does look pretty useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoSS Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Neat, but I like to snare mine. I splice a loop a foot long in the end, put it through the fairlead, around the drum and back out, feed the hook through the loop and pull tight. Then we know that whatever daft stuff goes on the rope is around the drum, and it's a lot easier to remove for cleaning Dont quite get that, do you have a pic or a diagram? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted February 11, 2015 Author Share Posted February 11, 2015 He's effectively making a 'lasso' that is pulled tight round the drum ...... .....Does that not make it hard to spool it on ? As it'll be rotating around the drum ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoSS Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Unless its a lasso that has 5 turns trapped inside it. but doesnt that put a lump in the spool? I guess it shouldnt slip as there should be no load on the conventional end screw when theres enough turns on the drum. Like this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Idris Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 It was on their so neat ! But I pulled it all off for you guy's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Idris Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 I tried David B's way with the string, where you fed the rope through itself and tape to the drum. It held really well, but it was hell to remove to clean, so I tried snaring the drum. To take if off just I had to bash it a little with a hammer stale to loosen the loop, which shows that when it grips it is really on there. The mile marker has no fixings so a nut is welded on as a lump to get it started. On the kingone tds and the kingone hydraulic I put a bit of rounded off bar in the rope hole. Once it has 'bitten' you take it down to three wraps without worry. I used to get it started with a wrap of soft rubber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted February 11, 2015 Author Share Posted February 11, 2015 I have a TDS and was wondering what to do with it - it's an old rope though so somewhat misshapen, which I think would make it a nightmare to try and splice .... Given that I haven't done it before. My plan was to just tuck the end In the rope hole and use one of these nylon things to retain it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoSS Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 @ Idris - Only one lasso turn is enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Idris Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Seems to be. You have to get it the right way on the drum. One way it tightens and the other way it spins. We only ran the string and tape for two seasons, started in 2007, so it must have done five seasons on two winches. Infact, the rear has never seen anything else but a single wrap snare. You could try two though. I had considered silicon rtv on the drum, with a wiggley line left to dry, as a gripper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted February 12, 2015 Author Share Posted February 12, 2015 Apologies for being a dope - but what's the string and tape method then ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Idris Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 It's like strong bootlace that is spliced into the end of the rope. Rope goes around the drum, through itself and then the string wraps around the drum and only needs electrical taping on. Call it a snare with a thin leader? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddy Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 I spliced my first rope on Saturday following that video and it all went fairly easily touch wood.I wouldn't be scared of giving it a go, I even did mine sat on the sofa watching telly. Will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Noisy Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Andy at ruftraks makes the retainers and calls them plasma locks He sent me one for Xmas and I just fitted it the other day Bit of a faff seeing as I never used a retainer before, but if it's useful I'm happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Noisy Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 And yeah regards the splicing I read the method the other day, now I'm splicing everything in sight! Made a couple of extension lines from old ropes, well happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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