d-9 Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 This seems fairly typical for rebuilt transmissions, the three I've seen from a major uk supplier have lasted 2 weeks, 3 months and 4 years (but with teeth coming out every oil change from 1 year). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted February 8, 2016 Author Share Posted February 8, 2016 Reading an FAQ on Paddocks website of all places and there was this question and answer: My 200 tdi Discovery is very difficult to change gear from 1st to 2nd or 3rd to 2nd. Why? A common fault with these boxes is a thrust washer in the 1 – 2 synchro assembly splitting in half and blocking movement. Rebuild the gearbox and replace both thrust washers in the 1 – 2 assembly. The downchange from 3rd to 2nd sounds like my problem. What do folks think the quality of these is likely to be: http://www.mod-sales.com/direct/vehicle/related/77937/Rover_LT77_Gearbox.htm They are likely to be early prefix boxes i would imagine, but i could enquire if people thought they would be reconditioned to a decent standard. I imagine they would be if they were for the MOD? I could take my own box apart, but i haven't done a gearbox before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honitonhobbit Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 Just as an aside. I know a man who has all the bearings in stock for an R380 and an LT77 A certain company who re-build gearboxes put in an order from a wholesaler but the wholesaler bought in Spanish made bearings - too expensive due to high quality; so Chinese 'made to a price' were used instead. The man I know bought the original order... Good supplier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted February 9, 2016 Author Share Posted February 9, 2016 What do folks think the quality of these is likely to be: http://www.mod-sales.com/direct/vehicle/related/77937/Rover_LT77_Gearbox.htm They are likely to be early prefix boxes i would imagine, but i could enquire if people thought they would be reconditioned to a decent standard. I imagine they would be if they were for the MOD? I could take my own box apart, but i haven't done a gearbox before. Just for info - i enquired about these boxes. The reply was not helpful. No idea what they are from, what they fit (they do look like land rover units and are probably from them but would be good to have it confirmed), what the box suffixes are likely to be or what the gear ratios may be (i can excuse the latter). Basically, if you want them, come and look at them and then bid. not helpful in the slightest really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted February 9, 2016 Author Share Posted February 9, 2016 Just as an aside. I know a man who has all the bearings in stock for an R380 and an LT77 A certain company who re-build gearboxes put in an order from a wholesaler but the wholesaler bought in Spanish made bearings - too expensive due to high quality; so Chinese 'made to a price' were used instead. The man I know bought the original order... Good supplier Could you PM me their details? I havent decided what to do yet, but if i take the box apart, it would be good to know where to purchase decent bearings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honitonhobbit Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Will do - company will also find you all the other bits There's a chap up by Bowie who re-builds boxes rather well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Yup, Gearchange in Burtle. Done a few boxes of various persuasion and all been good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honitonhobbit Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 There's a chap who used to work for Gearchange (who no longer do LT77's) down in Mark Causeway, works out of his garage... I'll dig out his number/name Of course you folk who live 'the other side of the hill' have to be treated with some caution Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 I'm VERY wary of buying anything like that which says 'reconditioned' or 'rebuilt'. If ANYTHING goes wrong with it, you stuffed. At least with an Ashcroft or similar box you've got a 12 month guarantee and some comeback. With anything ex-MOD, yes it's probably good, but it only takes one little slip at rebuild to bugger a box, then you've £500 down from buying it and a bill for it's repair - potentially the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbs Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 I've got a R380 stumpy from Ashcrofts on my 90 and I fitted it with an oil cooler(ok-yes even though I live in the Uk, as I do-do some towing and sometimes don't hang about when I'm driving), after spending the thick end of £1200.00 I want as much protection that I can get, I've change the oil every 6 months and it's been as good as gold, I've had it on my truck since 2013 and done about 15-20k miles since then, The oil cooler is the standard thermostatic block from land rover that fit's onto late LT77's and all R380 boxes, I've fitted it to a 13 row 235mm long-unbranded oil cooler in a vertical position with 1/2" hydraulic swaged pipework run up to the front and it sits next to my full width intercooler, I've also fitted an "oil cooler" from rocky mountain spares to my transfer box as I replaced that at the same time as my main gearbox, Since I've fitted both of these to my truck I've noticed a drop in the engine temperature(on the gauge) and a much cooler cab area too John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddychris300tdi Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 This might be some use. http://www.onlinegearboxparts.com/ Shab's at syncro if very quick to reply to questions and offer advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arjan Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Shabs is good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatboy Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Funnily enough... I bought a slick shift kit from Shabs a few weeks ago. Fitted it and initially didn't get on with it. Send him a note and he was quick and helpful with the response which told me how important it was to set the balance up.. Now, I think its great. I had a weird noise from the LT77 last week and thought it may be on the way out so hauled a spare one from the weeds to see if it was fit. (Its not). I've looked at a couple of sites who say they are using OEM or "known" bearings but based on the last post above, I had a look at the link to find that indeed, Shabs sells all of the other bits too. Based on the help and quality of the slick shift kit, he will be getting my business for a rebuild kit for the LT230 and if I can pluck up the courage, the LT77 too. (Needs a new main shaft etc). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddychris300tdi Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 I had my box rebuilt with a few new fancy bits by Shabs. And spending some time with him in his workshop he is very thorough. That being the main reason he is still a one man band, because he wants to keep all work up to his high standards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BennehBoy Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 I refurbished my own R380 simply because I didn't trust a professional place to actually replace all the parts that wear the most, all bearings, baulk rings etc. Cost me 200 quid + time. It's a pretty easy rebuild if you have the right tools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted February 20, 2016 Author Share Posted February 20, 2016 Interesting. If you were to list the essential out of the ordinary tools, what would they be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BennehBoy Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Long legged gear pullers/separators - oil seal collar & other bearings. Impact gun - for the fifth lay gear nut blind bearing puller, for the support bearing track in the pinion Press Various drifts & mallets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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