Roosterrs Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 My 1995 300 TDi defender 90 has had a new clutch fitted and all new hoses and slave cylinder. Bled the clutch but the pedal is solid. You can't push it down. We are going to check the slave is working properly but has anyone else had a similar issue or got any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulcan bomber Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 Sounds like the clutch was fitted incorrectly to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roosterrs Posted April 24, 2016 Author Share Posted April 24, 2016 Slave working fine. How could they have fitted it wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulcan bomber Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 Friction plate back to front.... Did it work before the hydraulics were changed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve b Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 Yep I'd agree , it happens ... no consolation I know but that is what it sounds like cheers Steveb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roosterrs Posted April 24, 2016 Author Share Posted April 24, 2016 Don't know as bought as a partially built project. Clutch is new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve b Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 Working in the garage/driveway on your own , it's easier to take the engine out to sort it out I'd say - if you have a crane or can hire one . cheers Steveb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Member Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 Make sure that there is freeplay at the master as per the manual. If no freeplay, the master can't release the pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roosterrs Posted April 24, 2016 Author Share Posted April 24, 2016 Looking at the release arm it seems to be all the way back against the housing. I would of thought the rod would have been forward more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 if you search for 'clutch pedal adjustment' you find the extract from the genuine workshop manual, this should be done after every clutch change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve b Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 If the drive plate is in backwards it means the pressure plate fingers will be further towards the flywheel , hence pushrod all the way in . It really does sound like it's in the wrong way round cheers Steveb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 Hamlet moment (for those old enough to remember) ? Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 If the drive plate is in backwards it means the pressure plate fingers will be further towards the flywheel , hence pushrod all the way in . It really does sound like it's in the wrong way round cheers Steveb Can you explain this? Sorry, can't see how flipping the plate round will make the friction surface fatter..... TA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve b Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 The boss for the first motion shaft will be against the flywheel bringing the gearbox side surface of the drive plate further from the flywheel forcing the release bearing back and the slave piston into the slave cyl. Obviously the flywheel side will not be in contact but the boss is . cheers Steveb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 Right, gotcha! Must look really bad when fitted up, and pretty obvious, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Or it could be this: This produced a solid pedal. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve b Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Very true Mike , I've had a failed thrust arm before , either way it's time to separate the engine and box ,which is not a bad thing when taking on a part finished project cheers Steveb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 I too immediately thought that the friction plate is fitted reversed, but also wondered about the hose - is it another Britpart replacement with a solid rubber section as we have seen them make on the Series brake hoses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roosterrs Posted April 25, 2016 Author Share Posted April 25, 2016 Checked the adjustment and its as per the book. Pedal still rock solid. Fluid flowing through pipe and out of bleed on slave so don't think its the hose. Ruled out the external issues so must be inside the clutch housing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roosterrs Posted April 25, 2016 Author Share Posted April 25, 2016 There isn't 2 types of slave cylinder is there? I am wondering if the slave is bottoming out before pushing on the diaphram? I can move the release lever backwards and forwards in the housing and there is no resistance as though the release bearing isn't there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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