David Sparkes Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 I'm not sure this counts as International, but we don't have a 'Wales' section. Credit must also go to the poster on the web forum of the Series 2 Club, who shared this with us. "I stirred things up on another forum by suggesting that Reliant Robins were not motor cars according to the RTA, and should go across the Severn Bridge without paying a toll. Somebody replied to say that UN-EXCISED vehicles are toll exempt. UN-EXCISED? Now there is an interesting word. I've gone back for more details. Does anybody here have any ideas?" Later the poster added: "News just in. I'm not certain about the reference to 1971 Act..... Dear Mr ********* Sorry for the delay in replying to your email. I have endeavoured to get to the bottom of this issue once and for all by going through the legal documents and my finding are:- The last reference to this that I can find documentary evidence for is in the "Statutory Instruments 2001 - Highways England. (Revision of Tolls and Traffic Classification) Order 2001" which came into force 28 August 2001. Item 3. States "No tolls shall be charged in respect of any vehicle which is not chargeable with any duty under the Vehicles (Excise) Act 1971 (b) by virtue of section 7(2) of that Act. I hope this clarifies the situation for you. Should you need any further information then please don't hesitate to come back to me. Having said this the only method that our staff have in policing the toll is via the vehicle displaying a current tax disc displaying nil tax. I have attached a copy of the order for your reference Regards, " So, it makes running a ringer off eBay even more attractive :-)) Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbarton Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Having said this the only method that our staff have in policing the toll is via the vehicle displaying a current tax disc displaying nil tax. So Tax-Exempt vehicles are not subject to bridge tolls? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 So Tax-Exempt vehicles are not subject to bridge tolls? That's what it says.... thought if it's a private company I am not sure they would care about that.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imspanners Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 "Statutory Instruments 2001 - Highways England. (Revision of Tolls and Traffic Classification) Order 2001" which came into force 28 August 2001.Item 3. States "No tolls shall be charged in respect of any vehicle which is not chargeable with any duty under the Vehicles (Excise) Act 1971 (B) by virtue of section 7(2) of that Act. Does that mean they can't charge for using the M6toll ?? (It may be run by a private company, but it's owned by the Government). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbocharger Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 I'm surprised we've not heard of this before. I suspect their way out would be to say "it is chargeable with road fund duty, but at a nil rate." Since you get a receipt for 'nil' then you've paid, albeit paid nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmgemini Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Rember too there are government vehicles that are un excised. Generally. well used to be a white tax disc. mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tacr2man Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Does that mean to own a "unexcised" vehicle you have to be a gentile ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Sparkes Posted November 6, 2008 Author Share Posted November 6, 2008 This is a link to the original specific discussion, the Un-excised element of which got mentioned on the Series 2 Club forum, and then on here. http://www.r3w.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=13945 Note they do spend time talking about the classification of 3 wheelers, which I appreciate is not our interest. However, as the discussion is on-going there may be more information on the Un-excised element, which will be of interest to owners of LRs that are exempt from Road Fund Tax. You will see reference to a letter that some people are carrying with them, but this relates to ensuring 3 wheelers are charged as motorcycles, not cars. The letter does not refer to 'Un-excised' vehicles. HTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmgemini Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 I wouldn't call a tax free series un excised...It's tax free, to me that's something completly different. mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Sparkes Posted November 6, 2008 Author Share Posted November 6, 2008 I wouldn't call a tax free series un excised...It's tax free, to me that's something completly different.mike Then we are just fortunate that it's not your call :-)) Those with Tax Free Vehicles have nothing to lose by enquiring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmgemini Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Nothing at all David. In fact I hope they manage to gain something. What I said was a point of view.... I remember the days when the GPO had white discs in the windscreen. mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeagent Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 I remember the days when the GPO had white discs in the windscreen.mike Who are the GPO? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbarton Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 I thought the white discs were "C" licences for commercial vehicles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Who are the GPO? General Post Office Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveRK Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Motorcycles are often exempt from road tolls and they still have to pay vehicle excise duty. A three wheeler can be driven on a full motorcycle license and may be considered more of a motorcycle rather than a car? Are we going off topic? Interesting topic though - TAX is an emotive point for all the right reasons mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titan Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 all i know is everytime ive crossed it in one of works wolfs the army has to pay a charge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hairyasswelder Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 Motorcycles are often exempt from road tolls and they still have to pay vehicle excise duty.A three wheeler can be driven on a full motorcycle license and may be considered more of a motorcycle rather than a car They are classed as 'tricycles' at a lower rate than a car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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