landroversforever Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 4 hours ago, Stellaghost said: Thanks Still got all droop etc to check, that's why nothing is fully welded yet just in case stuff has to be reconfigured, nowt worse than cutting off after fully welding. The reservoir is just cable tied there for out of the way convenience although it will probably stay there but held with a purpose made clamp regards Stephen What's your axle width again Stephen? My shocks are properly snug in that location with the axle at full articulation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted August 30, 2022 Author Share Posted August 30, 2022 1 hour ago, landroversforever said: What's your axle width again Stephen? 76" wide Ross Regards Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted August 30, 2022 Author Share Posted August 30, 2022 Raining out this morning, so welder is staying in garage, however that did not stop me making some suspension bracketry Shock tower parts made for the other side then started with rear shock brackets, first fitted some Previously made lower shock bracket then bend some 6" x 1/4" flat bar, managed with a slight alteration to lower press die Before After Trial fit and marking hole positions Bolted on After a bit of shaping A wee bit more trimming and some additional bracing needed to finish and as always the other side to make regards Stephen 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Stellaghost said: 76" wide Ross Regards Stephen Ahh should be good then. I forget the calcs but I’m about 78/79” probably outside to outside of tyres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted August 30, 2022 Author Share Posted August 30, 2022 26 minutes ago, landroversforever said: Ahh should be good then. I forget the calcs but I’m about 78/79” probably outside to outside of tyres. That makes Sid 3" /4" narrower than yours. ...... Regards Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted August 30, 2022 Author Share Posted August 30, 2022 A bit more done, however I can see alterations required, pleased I didn't fully weld brackets on. First some bolt tabs Welded them on and tried Mr Fox for size, fits but angles for brackets are wrong, as the suspension drops the shock top will bind on brackets so will need to revisit that, otherwise its not looking too bad regards Stephen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddy Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 I think your shocks need to be well inboard at the top? Found these old pictures of my 90 and as Daan pointed out at the time I had/have negative shock clearance (or some other fancy phrase!) The front tyres would actually rotate the shock body as you moved in that situation and as you can see the back is even worse although due to the top of the rear shocks being more inboard this wasn't an issue. You can see how offset the wheels are from the disc position, I could change the pads without taking the wheel off. Could you bolt your brackets as they are but to the inside of the chassis rail? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted August 31, 2022 Author Share Posted August 31, 2022 Thanks for taking the time to dig photos out Have considered moving shocks inboard before( gone to far did it years ago for extra articulation) but I didn't think about it this time, will take a look, the issue for me is because I've never had spherical bearings in my shocks before I didn't take into account where the bearing holder castings were going to clash. Will remake a blank set up and shape once I'm happy with shock position, really need to get into a position where I can start flexing suspension to see what's what, however I'm not that far away hopefully closer after today regards Stephen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddy Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 I may be talking absolute rubbish so I would cycle the suspension asap before doing anything rash, it just seems a shame to make brackets if they are wrong. I think if the top of the rear shock is inline with the outside of the chassis rail it should be about right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted August 31, 2022 Author Share Posted August 31, 2022 2 hours ago, muddy said: I think if the top of the rear shock is inline with the outside of the chassis rail it should be about right. I would tend to agree, think I will be ok for the front, however the rear sits around 21/2" out with chassis rails to allow for the rear tub. I may well have to use some tub space but I will see where I'm at when I start cycling the axles regards Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 My front shocks are in near as damnit the same place and they get very tight/just touch the shocks at worst case full articulation, and that's with my wider axles than you. 1680 wheel face to wheel face I think it works out at (+120mm over stock defender), and -5mm offset on 12.5" wide tyres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted August 31, 2022 Author Share Posted August 31, 2022 27 minutes ago, landroversforever said: My front shocks are in near as damnit the same place and they get very tight/just touch the shocks at worst case full articulation, and that's with my wider axles than you. 1680 wheel face to wheel face I think it works out at (+120mm over stock defender), and -5mm offset on 12.5" wide tyres. I'm going to be seriously unhappy if I have to undo the work on the rims to get tyres closer in.....lol regards Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 If you've got similar travel and steering lock, you'd be needing to push them back out with more offset Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted August 31, 2022 Author Share Posted August 31, 2022 25 minutes ago, landroversforever said: If you've got similar travel and steering lock, you'd be needing to push them back out with more offset Not happening..... Will just have to fabricate a solution......lol Regards Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L19MUD Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 36 minutes ago, landroversforever said: If you've got similar travel and steering lock, you'd be needing to push them back out with more offset Wheel spacers 😆 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 1 hour ago, L19MUD said: Wheel spacers 😆 Stephen spec.... each one ground perfectly from a 'sheet' (in his land) of 2" steel by hand 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted August 31, 2022 Author Share Posted August 31, 2022 My shock compressing rig.......regards Stephen 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted August 31, 2022 Author Share Posted August 31, 2022 Yaaaaaay finally all 4 shocks fitted 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L19MUD Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 Cycle suspension time now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted August 31, 2022 Author Share Posted August 31, 2022 1 hour ago, L19MUD said: Cycle suspension time now? Not quite, need to fit single link cross member and connect up then possibly cycle suspension, have not made my mind up whether to make prop shafts first regards Stephen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Stellaghost said: Not quite, need to fit single link cross member and connect up then possibly cycle suspension, have not made my mind up whether to make prop shafts first regards Stephen I’d cycle the suspension first incase you need to make any major changes. Also gives you chance to measure the lengths in a variety of positions. It also might affect what you do for a prop. Thinking along the lines of something like the old RRC prop that’s super thin (and solid IIRC). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted August 31, 2022 Author Share Posted August 31, 2022 14 minutes ago, landroversforever said: I’d cycle the suspension first incase you need to make any major changes. Also gives you chance to measure the lengths in a variety of positions. It also might affect what you do for a prop. Thinking along the lines of something like the old RRC prop that’s super thin (and solid IIRC). That makes sense Ross thank you regards Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD5toV8110 Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 I think the thin solid front RRC shaft was for later cars with cats (for cat clearance!) 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stellaghost Posted September 3, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 3, 2022 Have been looking at engine to axle clearance again, because I took notice of something that has been staring me in the face but not acknowledged So with rear suspension all connected and chassis on stops the rear spring mounting plates tilt towards the centre of the vehicle by 8 degrees. I did not account for this with front axle. I have now tilted front axle inwards by 8 degrees and gained a wee bit more clearance due to diff nose tilting down a tad Rear axle front axle clearance at diff to engine as you can see it's improved slightly so I'm happy with that will leave it in that position while I fabricate front single link set up regards Stephen 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted September 4, 2022 Author Share Posted September 4, 2022 Some modifications to my single link crossmember today that's not looking too bad now regards Stephen 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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