Stellaghost Posted September 18, 2022 Author Share Posted September 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Bowie69 said: So on that, is there no scope to fit the shocks inside the springs? Reasoning ? Could certainly try, clamping springs at top will be a bit more awkward Are we talking front only or all ? Regards Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted September 18, 2022 Author Share Posted September 18, 2022 3 hours ago, Bowie69 said: So on that, is there no scope to fit the shocks inside the springs? Initially my shocks were outboard of the front springs towards the front of the axle, part of the reason I've picked to install them behind the springs towards the centre of the vehicle is due to the length of the new shocks, I will have to cut the wings to install them however the tops will remain hidden by the bonnet, if I mount in the original shock position I think they will come through the wings in line with the bonnet folds, therefore I would have wings and bonnet to modify. I will check this in more detail before I commit to making trial brackets to mount shocks in original position within the coils regards Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 4 hours ago, Stellaghost said: Reasoning ? Could certainly try, clamping springs at top will be a bit more awkward Are we talking front only or all ? Regards Stephen If they'll fit in there at the front (clearing whilst articulating) you'll gain some tyre clearance. Yours are 16" travel right? I suspect you might struggle. with it hitting the inner edge at full droop. With mine I've also had to bias the turrets to the inside closer to the chassis rail to enable the top of the tyre to tip inwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted September 18, 2022 Author Share Posted September 18, 2022 46 minutes ago, landroversforever said: If they'll fit in there at the front (clearing whilst articulating) you'll gain some tyre clearance. Yours are 16" travel right? I suspect you might struggle. with it hitting the inner edge at full droop. With mine I've also had to bias the turrets to the inside closer to the chassis rail to enable the top of the tyre to tip inwards. 14" travel @landroversforever regards Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 Yeah, just one less thing in the way? Back and front why not, that is how the little green things is on 12" shocks... My shock tops are just inside the bonnet bump round the edge, but whether the bonnet is in a stock position is another question of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted September 18, 2022 Author Share Posted September 18, 2022 10 minutes ago, Bowie69 said: My shock tops are just inside the bonnet bump round the edge, but whether the bonnet is in a stock position is another question of course. Lightweight bonnet cuts in a lot sharper than a series one though Regards Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted September 18, 2022 Author Share Posted September 18, 2022 12 minutes ago, Bowie69 said: Back and front why not, that is how the little green things is on 12" shocks... Could you possibly post a picture of your rear shock set up please regards Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Stellaghost said: 14" travel @landroversforever regards Stephen Ahh same as me then, I couldn't remember! I think you might struggle within the centre of the upper spring seat. Well worth a try though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 From memory the biggest pain was the dropped out side hitting the chassis rail side of the spring seat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted September 18, 2022 Author Share Posted September 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, landroversforever said: From memory the biggest pain was the dropped out side hitting the chassis rail side of the spring seat. @landroversforever Did you go out with the coils then regards Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, Stellaghost said: @landroversforever Did you go out with the coils then regards Stephen Spring seats are in their stock position and the shocks stand behind them. At ride height they lean slightly forwards. Not had time to touch it in over a year, but from memory I just need to tickle the lip on the side of the spring seat slightly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 37 minutes ago, Stellaghost said: Could you possibly post a picture of your rear shock set up please regards Stephen Will grab one tomorrow, but it is just a shock inside the spring, with a couple of tabs welded to the spring plate pointing upwards. Top mounts to a horizontal cage bar, again with two tabs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted September 18, 2022 Author Share Posted September 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Bowie69 said: Will grab one tomorrow, but it is just a shock inside the spring, with a couple of tabs welded to the spring plate pointing upwards. Top mounts to a horizontal cage bar, again with two tabs. I take it goes through the rear tub ? Regards Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 Yup, only an inch or two though, though my tub isn't made by Land Rover... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddy Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 I can’t see how the hole in the spring seat allows enough deflection movement of the shock body side to side with 14” of travel and plus you need to re think the re location cones. perhaps take the shocks off, cycle the suspension until the wheels/tyres touch or the arms max out and then offer up the shock/brush shaft cut to length in various places to see how it fits. If you arnt changing your wheel offset (and this is what is the binding point) I think tipping the top of the shocks in slightly is going to be the best compromise. If the build criteria is ‘lightweight silhouette’ and ‘fits through a field gate’ you might have to compramise with 12” of travel. Just my 2p as an opinion to stop this turning too ‘WillWarne’ like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 With 12" travel on little green thing and quite fat shocks there is plenty of room in the holes in the upper spring seat tis why I suggested the possibility Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted September 19, 2022 Author Share Posted September 19, 2022 24 minutes ago, muddy said: I can’t see how the hole in the spring seat allows enough deflection movement of the shock body side to side with 14” of travel and plus you need to re think the re location cones. perhaps take the shocks off, cycle the suspension until the wheels/tyres touch or the arms max out and then offer up the shock/brush shaft cut to length in various places to see how it fits. If you arnt changing your wheel offset (and this is what is the binding point) I think tipping the top of the shocks in slightly is going to be the best compromise. If the build criteria is ‘lightweight silhouette’ and ‘fits through a field gate’ you might have to compramise with 12” of travel. Just my 2p as an opinion to stop this turning too ‘WillWarne’ like 11 minutes ago, Bowie69 said: With 12" travel on little green thing and quite fat shocks there is plenty of room in the holes in the upper spring seat tis why I suggested the possibility Will have a measure up on Wednesday I do want to maintain the present width and keep the lightweight silhouette Front shock tops also need to remain under the bonnet, but I'm not against cutting the rear tub if I have to Ideally if someone walked last they would only say, he's put bloody big tyres on that where as someone with knowledge would take in the other differences and hopefully say that has been subtly done I don't want an obviously big monster truck and I also don't want suspension bulges / turrets sticking out in the open screaming " look at me" as far as possible I will not compromise on these things Set up is not that far away at present but obviously still needing work, it's all moot until my days off starting Wednesday regards Stephen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 Also, apologies, forgot the photo today, will try and grab a couple tomorrow evening. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted September 19, 2022 Author Share Posted September 19, 2022 6 minutes ago, Bowie69 said: Also, apologies, forgot the photo today, will try and grab a couple tomorrow evening. Apologies not needed... I'm aware you have a lot on and a short deadline to try and meet Regards Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daan Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 2 hours ago, muddy said: Just my 2p as an opinion to stop this turning too ‘WillWarne’ like Not sure Stephen knows who Will Warne actually is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted September 20, 2022 Author Share Posted September 20, 2022 7 hours ago, Daan said: Not sure Stephen knows who Will Warne actually is. I did wonder, please enlighten me regards Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 8 hours ago, Daan said: Not sure Stephen knows who Will Warne actually is. Bloody hard work normally. Will was a shires member and on here he had lots of ideas for building a truck bought lots of bits then changed his mind and sold some of it again for the next great idea. Unfortunately he never really made much progress, he is a genuinely nice guy though I have seen him for years. Oh and he had a welding pigeon. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Anderzander Posted September 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 20, 2022 Stephen’s work rate and completion rate puts him in another league. I wouldn’t confuse challenges along the way with confidence in getting it done. Many many challenges overcome here already - with great ingenuity and at pace. Will Warne’s truck was glacial - Stephen rebuilt his chassis in 3 days. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous doug Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 25 minutes ago, Anderzander said: Stephen’s work rate and completion rate puts him in another league. I wouldn’t confuse challenges along the way with confidence in getting it done. Many many challenges overcome here already - with great ingenuity and at pace. Will Warne’s truck was glacial - Stephen rebuilt his chassis in 3 days. Imagine what could be achieved if you locked him and @Soren Frimodt in the shed for a while😂 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 Imagine what would happen if Stephen was let loose on Ross' truck! (Aka Will Warne II). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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