landroversforever Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 55 minutes ago, Shackleton said: What is that, Benz? Sounds quality. Yeah, Mercedes OM613.... straight 6. I think 3.2L from memory. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 All you ever want to know: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_OM613_engine 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 I'm more than happy to develop a controller for EDC if anyone can pass on the technical specs on the back of a cheque 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, FridgeFreezer said: I'm more than happy to develop a controller for EDC if anyone can pass on the technical specs on the back of a cheque Dumb question but surely megasquirt could be adapted to run a diesel. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escape Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 MS1 only has 4 injector drivers if I'm not mistaken. Enough for a 4 pot or bank fire in a V8 petrol, but no good for a 5 or 6 pot diesel. I'm sure MS2 or MS3 can cope though. Filip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 It's not that at all - EDC (as I understand it) is not firing injectors, it's just adjusting the pump parameters by varying a couple of actuators and possibly reading a couple of sensors, which is far simpler than what MS has to do. However, common-rail direct-injection diesels with no mechanical injection pump have a far harder job to do than petrol injection - the injectors are dealing with huge pressures so take a more complex set of electronics to control them, the timing of the injection event is critical (much more like controlling spark than fuel) but they have to start and stop injection at exactly the right time and often fire several injections per combustion event with very tight timing. It makes petrol fuel + spark look very easy by comparison. None of it's insurmountable, it just needs someone willing to spend the time & money and sacrifice a few engines to the R&D process 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 1 hour ago, FridgeFreezer said: It's not that at all - EDC (as I understand it) is not firing injectors, it's just adjusting the pump parameters by varying a couple of actuators and possibly reading a couple of sensors, which is far simpler than what MS has to do. As far as I know on the Merc ones, it controls the rack position via the throttle position, and limits that movement relative to boost pressure so it's not rolling coal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobias Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 On 3/14/2019 at 1:03 PM, FridgeFreezer said: I'm more than happy to develop a controller for EDC if anyone can pass on the technical specs on the back of a cheque A controller is available from Iceland at USD 650. https://controls.is/shop/ecu/dsl1 T 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobias Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Anyone has dyno charts for 300tdi EDC? Also, any ideas on how to make the torque curve "flatter"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Fit a Lexus V8 Yes, that is nearly flat all the way down to 1K. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Tobias said: A controller is available from Iceland at USD 650. https://controls.is/shop/ecu/dsl1 T That's probably what I'm going to be running. Especially as it will talk to my transmission controller too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 3 hours ago, Bowie69 said: Fit a Lexus V8 Nice - I'm stealing that dyno plot for my collection too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 @FridgeFreezer, here's a 10K rpm version: Yes, that really is over 400 WBHP NA 4.3L 1UZ-FE, VVTI switched off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobias Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 (edited) "That's probably what I'm going to be running. Especially as it will talk to my transmission controller too." Please tell me more about setup and intended purpose! Which TCU? T Edited March 18, 2019 by Tobias Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 37 minutes ago, Tobias said: "That's probably what I'm going to be running. Especially as it will talk to my transmission controller too." Please tell me more about setup and intended purpose! Which TCU? T I'm using Ole's controller from Ofgear.dk. It's all in my build thread in my signature. I'm rebuilding my 90 (slowly) with a Mercedes OM606, 722.6 5 speed auto from an ML, coupled up to an LT230 with my own billet adaptor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Very very slowly ... 😉 Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mo Murphy Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 I know Ross, it's for your retirement 😎 Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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