92a Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 Hi Everyone, I have almost finished fitting a galvanised TD5 bulkhead on my 200TDi Defender, One of the problems along the way was the later square holes for the wiper spindles, "solved" by buying new TD5 style wiper boxes, although I got every thing connected up ok, the sweep is limited I guess the wheels inside are different diameters Has any one else found this problem ? and made up some adaptor to overcome this issue? I've got at least one more TD5 galvanised bulkhead to swap (onto my other earlier 90) so need to solve this? Might be a great project for a self isolating engineer ? Thanks Angus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 The gear in the wiper motor sets the wiper sweep travel & angle, Have a look on here https://www.s-v-c.co.uk/category/wiper-systems-and-part/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92a Posted March 30, 2020 Author Share Posted March 30, 2020 Thanks for that Ralph , but the only things that have been changed the spindle boxes and the wipers swept enough before, Britrest on Youtube did a great video about moving the pin on the gear out to increase sweep but I don’t think it could be moved out enough to make enough difference ☹️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92a Posted March 30, 2020 Author Share Posted March 30, 2020 Should read “are the spindle boxes” 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianmayco68 Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 I’ve got both types of wheel boxes in the workshop I’ll check for you if the gears are the same, but I’ve been doing a mod using disco wiper rods and used td5 wheel boxes on my 300tdi as they’re more secure in the bulkhead and I’m sure there’s no difference , at least you’ll know then they’re not the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eightpot Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 The later type wheel box with a nut to hold the wiper on uses a different ratio gear set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianmayco68 Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 Well here you go left early, right td5 td5 is bigger, td5 wiper motor would sort it I’d imagine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 Or just fit the drive gear from a Td5 motor (sold separately) - this should match the wheelboxes and give you your proper sweep back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve200TDi Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 Does that mean the TD5 wiper spindle 'shell' is bigger too? Please could we have side by side pictures of the whole wiper spindle? Thanks Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 a different gear in the wheelbox will explain a lot, didn't know they were smaller on the Td5 on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianmayco68 Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 TD5's are bigger western the one on the left complete is from a TDi , sorry Steve I butchered them for the wiper upgrade with disco rods . What do you mean by the shells ? The silver bits that clamp the tube together ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve200TDi Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 (edited) 30 minutes ago, ianmayco68 said: TD5's are bigger western the one on the left complete is from a TDi , sorry Steve I butchered them for the wiper upgrade with disco rods . What do you mean by the shells ? The silver bits that clamp the tube together ? Yep, I thought 'shells' would be a good name, but you must be on the same wave length as 'the silver bits that clamp the tube together' also make perfect sense! Not to worry, I'm still procuring the parts I need and all this info it handy to know! Steve Edited March 30, 2020 by steve200TDi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 2 hours ago, ianmayco68 said: TD5's are bigger western the one on the left complete is from a TDi , sorry Steve I butchered them for the wiper upgrade with disco rods . What do you mean by the shells ? The silver bits that clamp the tube together ? Cheers for the info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianmayco68 Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 @steve200TDi I cut all the shell off apart from a small circular bit as it wasn't needed , should be back on the project latter in the week and back on the wiper's . I had them running before I lost interest had to alter the bar size's as they were out but all was well when I finished just needed to work out how to mount the motor , if you want any pics of how far I've got on anything specific pm me and i'll post them up for you , but most are in my dash thread . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneandtwo Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 22 hours ago, steve200TDi said: Yep, I thought 'shells' would be a good name, but you must be on the same wave length as 'the silver bits that clamp the tube together' also make perfect sense! Not to worry, I'm still procuring the parts I need and all this info it handy to know! Steve Yes the whole wheel box assembly is bigger than the old type. The td5 also has the wiper boxes 180 degrees out with the rack and cable entering from the lower side instead of the higher side. If you are using the old wiper motor, rack and cabling with new td5 gear you have to orientate the wiper boxes with cable on upper side and trim away the central dash mounting bracket slightly as this gets in the way of the cable run. For better to fit late td5 dash and wiper motor / rack as the more direct route of cabling helps the wiper motor operate better as far less drag on cable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve200TDi Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 22 hours ago, ianmayco68 said: @steve200TDi I cut all the shell off apart from a small circular bit as it wasn't needed , should be back on the project latter in the week and back on the wiper's . I had them running before I lost interest had to alter the bar size's as they were out but all was well when I finished just needed to work out how to mount the motor , if you want any pics of how far I've got on anything specific pm me and i'll post them up for you , but most are in my dash thread . I see, that's fine. I await your wiper progress in the other thread! Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92a Posted March 31, 2020 Author Share Posted March 31, 2020 I found out about the TD5 ones going the opposite way when I turned the wipers on luckily I had pulled the arms away front the new windscreen to stop them scratching it so no harm done , I’ve turned the TD5 boxes up the other way and have working wipers with limited sweep , I don’t want to spend loads on a new dash so I’m going to have a go at remodelling the TD5 ones to take old spindles , wishing I had broken the car instead of going to the expense and hassle of changing the bulkhead, I’m out of pocket big time now ☹️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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