PhillyWoo Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 After a rather 'eventful' weekend in Wales @ Summer Sisters I now have a donor td5 form my Disco 2 to drop into my 110. The disco is an auto but I also happen to have a parts truck D2 knocking about with a manual R380 so my question for the more experienced is, what do I need to make these things all come together and live happily* in the 110? Build pics to follow as soon as I get started 👍 and pic of upside down disco just after it happened 👎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 As Louis didn't get to say it..... You can't park there mate. Am I right in thinking your 110 is currently a 300tdi but not originally. If so what gearbox is in there and if it's an R380 is it in the 300 position. Mike 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillyWoo Posted June 28, 2023 Author Share Posted June 28, 2023 10 hours ago, miketomcat said: As Louis didn't get to say it..... You can't park there mate. Am I right in thinking your 110 is currently a 300tdi but not originally. If so what gearbox is in there and if it's an R380 is it in the 300 position. Mike 😂 Thanks Mike! Yes its a 300 at the moment with an LT77 and it did have a 200 tdi originally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 In which case you'll need: Props, front, the disco front prop should fit but needs to be checked. Rear needs to be 300tdi 110 onwards (not puma). Gearbox mounts and I think there's a cross member to. Engine chassis mounts (you might be able to cut the disco mounts off and use them). Td5 exhaust (it's bigger). Air box? Not sure if they're different. This is off the top of my head and assumes your going to put it in the correct position so you can use off the shelf parts. Mike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 18 hours ago, miketomcat said: As Louis didn't get to say it..... You can't park there mate. Beat me to it! Welcome along Phil I think you should be able to leave your transfer box where it is (or put the TD5 one in the exact same place) and retain props as standard, only risk is that may then put the engine in a non-standard position... up to you really, putting the TD5 in the "factory" TD5 location would theoretically make all the plumbing / exhaust etc. line up using standard TD5 Defender parts which has a lot to be said for it, but could be more work in other areas. Your D2 R380 will be different to a Defender one (gearstick in wrong place) but I think Ashcroft sell a stick-relocation kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 5 hours ago, FridgeFreezer said: Beat me to it! Welcome along Phil I think you should be able to leave your transfer box where it is (or put the TD5 one in the exact same place) and retain props as standard, only risk is that may then put the engine in a non-standard position... up to you really, putting the TD5 in the "factory" TD5 location would theoretically make all the plumbing / exhaust etc. line up using standard TD5 Defender parts which has a lot to be said for it, but could be more work in other areas. Your D2 R380 will be different to a Defender one (gearstick in wrong place) but I think Ashcroft sell a stick-relocation kit. I'm fairly sure you can't leave the transfer box where it is because the R380 is about 5 inches longer than than the defender LT77 and from memory the R380 is further into the engine bay to get the engine clear of the bulkhead. Either way I would put everything in the correct td5 position as it will make everything easier in the long run. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddy Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 You will need a TD5 flywheel clutch etc and then use the discovery td5 R380 with a selector shaft adaptor and the existing 110 gear sticks. Weld the chassis engine mounts onto your chassis and then the discovery radiator and pipework should all match up. You will either need to make your own loom from the discovery one or buy a ready made stand alone loom, you will also need a different ECU if you are not using the auto, whatever ECU you use either needs to be de-immobilised or you need an emulator in the loom. You can also buy a shortened bell housing and engine mounts on eBay to use your existing 300 gearbox and chassis mounts if you wish. In truth it may be more cost effective to sell the engine and box you have now and buy a complete manual setup unless that is the engine you have now is particularly good or you have fitted many new parts to it. Will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 @muddy he currently has an lt77 not an r380 so the transfer box will likely need to move position. He has a disco 10p attached to a manual and a disco 15p with auto. I believe the plan is to fit the manual to the 15p and fit that in place of the current 300tdi and lt77 in the defender. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddy Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 Ah I missed the LT77 bit! In that case yes you will need to move the transfer box forwards in turn needing a new transmission tunnel, floor plates and seatbox/bulhead flange. You can run and external 044style pump or get a td5 tank and pump assembly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arjan Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 Interesting project after a rather unfortunate incident. Metal things have been mentioned. The DII Engine ECU needs input from the DII BCU - you may want to try and find a Defender version to make it easier. (P.S. Does that DII have cruise Control ? Looking for the switches....) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 Of course the other option is to stick the auto into the Defender.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wytze Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 12 minutes ago, Bowie69 said: Of course the other option is to stick the auto into the Defender.... One up on the auto box😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddy Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Arjan said: The DII Engine ECU needs input from the DII BCU - you may want to try and find a Defender version to make it easier. Only the Auto ECU is looking for extra signals I believe, the disco ECU can be configured to run a defender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillyWoo Posted June 29, 2023 Author Share Posted June 29, 2023 2 hours ago, Arjan said: (P.S. Does that DII have cruise Control ? Looking for the switches....) Yes it does, drop me a pm 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 Phil doesn't know it but he has the tunnel and diaphragm covered. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 1 hour ago, miketomcat said: Phil doesn't know it but he has the tunnel and diaphragm covered. Don't tell me, you'll trade for the 200TDi he pulls out of the 110 to add to your collection of ropey old 200TDi's 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 54 minutes ago, FridgeFreezer said: Don't tell me, you'll trade for the 200TDi he pulls out of the 110 to add to your collection of ropey old 200TDi's Nah it's a 300 in there, I don't want that.... Mike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillyWoo Posted June 29, 2023 Author Share Posted June 29, 2023 22 hours ago, FridgeFreezer said: Your D2 R380 will be different to a Defender one (gearstick in wrong place) but I think Ashcroft sell a stick-relocation kit. Could I get away with picking up a defender bell housing and linkage and fit them to the disco's box? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 You could save all that bother and stick the auto in it. Stop avoiding the question 😛 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 I'm pretty sure the defender/disco bell housing is the same on the R380 it's the position of the gear stick and hi/low stick they're much further back on the disco. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, Bowie69 said: You could save all that bother and stick the auto in it. Stop avoiding the question 😛 Except autos are horrible and should be banned. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, miketomcat said: Except autos are horrible and should be banned. Mike Wellllllllll........ Nope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wytze Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 20 minutes ago, miketomcat said: Except autos are horrible and should be banned. Mike I must agree with Bowie here.. ☻ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLineMike Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 20 hours ago, miketomcat said: Except autos are horrible and should be banned. Mike you miss spelt TD5 autos are horrible 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillyWoo Posted July 2, 2023 Author Share Posted July 2, 2023 On 6/29/2023 at 6:11 PM, Bowie69 said: You could save all that bother and stick the auto in it. Stop avoiding the question 😛 I could, but really don't fancy the extra expense of the compushift box from Ashcroft...tbh I actually really like the auto behind the td5 in the disco, with a slight remap its not quite a sluggish as it was. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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