steve_a Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Finally got around to make a converter for the wetroads database file to go into some common apps. The convertor will take the fords.dbf file and output o csv format of all fields (though you can read it into open office and things to do that if you want, as I found out later.. ) o WPT file for OziExplorer (tested and works, though the markers are in the right spot lat/long wise, the OS grid ref is a better position) o TOM TOM POI (haven't tried this yet, need to bring the pda in and try it) o Memory Map CSV format, I was going to do an mmo file, but I have struggled to find the format, and without some known test data deciphering the format was a bit boring for 1am last night I was wondering if I could send the memory map file to someone to try, since I don't use it but I know a lot of you do. After I test TOM TOM I will make a copy of the exe available somewhere (can the forum host it, I lost my webspace when I went to BT a few months ago). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 I was wondering if I could send the memory map file to someone to try, since I don't use it but I know a lot of you do. After I test TOM TOM I will make a copy of the exe available somewhere (can the forum host it, I lost my webspace when I went to BT a few months ago). Nice work! I'd be happy to test the Memory Map file, and if you need a host for it, just ask -assuming it's not too big Can you not FTP it up to the http://vamp.idlers.org/~jaffa/ site? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Freak Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 I'm happy to try in MM for you and I can either Host on my Virgin Media space or server I buy space on in the USA..... Let me know if you need any assistance. Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_a Posted November 6, 2007 Author Share Posted November 6, 2007 OK, It is about ready to go out, so V8Freak may be telling you all where to get it. It currently stands as: * OziExplorer output - status - tested * MemoryMap output - status - tested * Google Earth - status - tested[1] * TomTom (5) - status - tested[2] * straight CSV output - status - tested [1] It's really messy, there a lot and you end up with the big push pins. I might have a look again at some point. [2] The data *is* in TT, honest, but the icons don't display, not a clue why at the moment. I even added another ford manually and that showed up, looked at the modified file and it only has the expected differences. I think this might be because the POI's aren't split into smaller areas, it's just the UK at the moment. You can use it to search nearby fords, and it can warn you if you are near one (so you can go drive through it ). The data is as found at wet roads, though i am filtering any Global, Canada and USA entries at present as wet roads is 99.9% UK and the other stuff mucks it up a little, so you need to download the application and the database from wet roads to convert. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 With the TomTom output fully working now, here it is! WetRoads Converter (Right-click and 'Save As...' if you have problems). You need to download the DBF from WetRoads from the 'GIS' page, the link is underneath the main map on the right. Many thanks to Steve for this really handy little app, have fun peeps, I know I will be Bowie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_a Posted November 9, 2007 Author Share Posted November 9, 2007 Wet roads have been contacted, I see no issue with the transformation of their data, but the google earth output ties to his website, (well the version on my computer does ) so I have contacted him to make sure that it is OK before I release a version with a, IMHO, nice interface in GE to see more info on the fords, it was fun last night being able to find a ford on the map, look at the sat imagery and then the photos on wet roads. I've also asked him to consider hosting the tool, that way if he changes the format of the database he should tell me and i can modify as needed. If anyone has any DBF (dBase, Foxpro and lots of others) that they want to convert give me a shout and I can release some C# classes to read the file for them. Oh, and thanks to Bowie, who bravely sacrificed his TomTom after using the versions before this ones output If anyone wants the complete C# code then contact me, it shouldn't be a problem to let it go. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveSIIA Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 Excellent tool. Does what it says on the tin. Thanks Worth noting that it needs Microsoft .NET 2.0 installed on the PC to run (as I found out the hard way). Free download from MS for those that need it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 Where can I get the memory map version from ? Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 There's a drop down to choose which file type you want to output, choose 'MMCSV - Memory Map Format' and then import to MM in the normal way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 By Jingo, it works ! Well done Steve ! And thanks for the tip Bowie 69 Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 There's a drop down to choose which file type you want to output, choose 'MMCSV - Memory Map Format' and then import to MM in the normal way. Would you post a link to the above please as I can't find it on the homepage or map page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 Huh? You download the Zipped up DBF from wetroads, unzip it to somewhere handy, like your desktop, then use the 'wetroadsconvertor.exe' to convert it into any format you like.... Like so: I may not have understood your question quite right, I am 3 strong German beers down and counting...... HTH, Bowie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_a Posted November 10, 2007 Author Share Posted November 10, 2007 OK, these instructions are 1 1/2 bottle of wine down, so may not be all they could How To use converter: 1) use the select DBF button to select the wet roads dbf file, this can be downloaded from the GIS page on wet roads, it's down below the map 2) choose an output location and a file name (you don't need to add the extension, it will be done for you) such as "c:\fords" via the "Select Output Folder and name" button 3) Choose your format via the drop down box next to the convert button 3a) if you are going to output to TomTom then you might want to export the icon for tomtom now as well by pressing the "TT icon" button, it has to be the exact same name as the ov2 file created to show the icon in TomTom. 4) hit convert, it won't take long (on my machine it's done in a blink) 5) Go and view the generated file in the appropriate application. Output info: CSV - (Comma Seperated Values) useful for just browsing, will open in excel, notepad, and others, straight text format WPT - OziExplorer format, use load waypoints menu option to get them into maps. POI - TomTom point of interest file (generates a file of the form fords.ov2 and when you export fords.bmp for icon). Drop this in the MAP folder, i.e. great_britain_map_plus on my PDA and it will be picked up. Use TT to enable thier display etc. MMCSV - this is another CSV format (so still text) which will import into Memory Map, I don't know much more than that, as I don't use MM KML - Google Earth file, to use open from Google Earth or you will probably get away with double clicking. The fords can mostly be opened and the text clicked to open the page on wetroads to view details. Other stuff: The arrowed buttons bottom right can be used to peer into the database by moving through records, it doesn't do anything else. The data will be displayed to the left of them The field above that shows the fields from the DBF and the last modified date for the info within it. About button - Kudos Hope that helps, Bowie is being kind enough to host for me, however it should switch over to being hosted on wet roads soon (as well). Bowies image above is a good reference to what formats it supports and the general interface. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 Cheers Guys, didn't know it was within the .zip file download, I'll have a look in the morning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 Cheers Guys, didn't know it was within the .zip file download, I'll have a look in the morning well I've got as far as dowmloading the Zip file & extracting it, all I get is a blank page icon with.dbf next to it, when I try to open it it just ask for the file format & can't go any further, this is on a Vista laptop by the way & does the same on my XP Home desk PC too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 You don't need to open the DBF file, you open the DBF file with the converter... if you see what I mean. And Vista is no problem, I tested it on both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 I got it all now onto my desktop PC, but having a network cable problem with the laptop/desktop, they just don't want to talk to eachother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Freak Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 Ralph, You got the application and data file on the same machine now ? If so, jump on MSN and I'll help you through.. If not.. Got a CR RW, or memory stick ? Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 Ralph, You got the application and data file on the same machine now ? If so, jump on MSN and I'll help you through.. If not.. Got a CR RW, or memory stick ? Neil Both on my laptop & in the Memory map overlay folder, I haven't got a memory stick, got some CDR's though but no CDRW's, managed to get it imported into MM & all the marlers show up on the Map when opened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Freak Posted November 11, 2007 Share Posted November 11, 2007 Sounds like you cracked it then.. Loads of markers all over UK showing where Fords / wet roads are.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted November 11, 2007 Share Posted November 11, 2007 yep, the map of UK is totally littered with them, might have to go & explore some down this way next weekend & hopefully gey some photo's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveG Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 Sounds like you cracked it then.. Loads of markers all over UK showing where Fords / wet roads are.... It doesn't have one that's less than 10 miles from you Neal . I must get round to taking some pics and post it up. Needed my winch and got soaked getting out . Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocKeR Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 Sorry BB mate, but that Rapid Share site is just plain nasty! I extract the DB myself thx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Freak Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 Try these links for the files.. No jiggery pokery required..... WetRoads Converter Fords Database (As at 13/11/07) Fords (Comma Separated) Fords (Google) Fords (Memory Map CSV) Fords (Oz Explorer) Fords (TomTom) Hope this helps... Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_a Posted November 14, 2007 Author Share Posted November 14, 2007 I didn't bother uploading the actual conversions as it means you can always download the latest database from wetroads and do a conversion yourself. Though I don't know how big an issue that actually is. I have a new Google Earth output which links images into the pop ups if anyone wants a copy of the file or the mildly updated conversion app. Any other feedback or comments, especially other formats it would be good in are welcome. Good to see the data getting used Did the water do that whooshing up the back of your legs as both my S3 and 90 do/did, takes the breath away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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