The Badger Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 i think generally, driving a Landrover slows you down, and for good reason really. Let's face it, in a pile up on the motor way, who knows what could happen? However, in close traffic, a 40/50 mile an hour smack will hurt you and you landy unless is head / rear on, but most traffic is lower then you, so your chance are good either way, unless you roll. but if you roll, then I think you are going either too fast, or off "really' off road. For the off road, they are a bit cheep looking, but fit a landy meter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bean Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 A Landy Meter? And this is what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromit Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 A Landy Meter?And this is what? one of these, I image. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy_neutron Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 one of these, I image. I was gonna get yan o them things on my next faddocks order. Is 25 degrees really that bad ... Think i better save the cash to speed up the roll cage buying. So how far will a 90 van go anyway before ya get a flat lid ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Badger Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 Actually, this one look quite posh... Is it from an airplane? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 Do you have any personal experience of these companies?Thanks I havent had any dealings with any of them, just ones i could think of. Only 17! no land rover yet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bean Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 one of these, I image. That looks like a Pajero to me. A land Rover one would have scale up to 40 degrees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy_neutron Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 Does that mean that i can tip my 90 to 40 degrees without catching the grass in my teeth ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bean Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 Does that mean that i can tip my 90 to 40 degrees without catching the grass in my teeth ? YES... However you will catch the wing mirror on the ground due to body roll! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave K Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 I own both a Clio, & a 110 SW.I know which one I'd prefer to have an accident in..............................! Then again, I'd prefer not to have any accidents. Famous last words..............! Then some pr*t in a well known Tyre replacement company van decided to plough into me. Still sorting it out, as he's now trying to say it wasn't him? Pilchard Made a nice mess of his van though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alantd Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 Does that mean that i can tip my 90 to 40 degrees without catching the grass in my teeth ? Land Rover officially suggests 35 degrees as the maximum traverse angle. I did one of their "experience days" a couple of years ago and they made me drive a side slope just shy of the maximum angle. I have to say I'd chicken out way before that - it felt more like 70 deg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmgemini Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 Land Rover officially suggests 35 degrees as the maximum traverse angle. I did one of their "experience days" a couple of years ago and they made me drive a side slope just shy of the maximum angle. I have to say I'd chicken out way before that - it felt more like 70 deg Yes I did on my Land Rover Experience day. Like you say I'll chicken out in most circumstances well before my Defende will. mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madcowz Posted February 20, 2008 Author Share Posted February 20, 2008 Still sorting it out, as he's now trying to say it wasn't him? Pilchard Why is it nobody owns up to it being their fault anymore? Every accident I hear about the person at fault refuses to accept responsibility. If yer make a mistake, put your hand up and say sorry. Not only were you hit by them, you now have all the extra hassle of the claim not being sorted quickly. Aint fair. Even goes as far as a woman who pulled out in front of a friend of ours who is a Police Officer, and is now saying it was his fault. Oh, and I got hit 3 weeks ago by an uninsured driver who failed to stop. Needless to say nothing came of that one. Getting back to roll cages. I think I have found a landy and would like to start looking at a cage. Is it possible to buy parts of them and fit yourself? I ask because I thought that rather than buy a light bar, I might as well get the front section of a cage, fit that and then save up for the rest. But only if that is possible. /Mad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave K Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 Why is it nobody owns up to it being their fault anymore? Every accident I hear about the person at fault refuses to accept responsibility. If yer make a mistake, put your hand up and say sorry. /Mad The Gentleman in question pulled out of a side street with out looking. Apparently as far as my Insurance Company is concerned, that is classed as the Third party being at fault! Had there been someway of avoiding the impact I would've done so. I don't make a habit of driving into other vehicles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callum Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 Why is it nobody owns up to it being their fault anymore? Every accident I hear about the person at fault refuses to accept responsibility. If yer make a mistake, put your hand up and say sorry. Not only were you hit by them, you now have all the extra hassle of the claim not being sorted quickly. Aint fair. Even goes as far as a woman who pulled out in front of a friend of ours who is a Police Officer, and is now saying it was his fault. Oh, and I got hit 3 weeks ago by an uninsured driver who failed to stop. Needless to say nothing came of that one. Getting back to roll cages. I think I have found a landy and would like to start looking at a cage. Is it possible to buy parts of them and fit yourself? I ask because I thought that rather than buy a light bar, I might as well get the front section of a cage, fit that and then save up for the rest. But only if that is possible. /Mad its probably in your insurance documentation that you should not admit fault in the event of an accident. You fill out the forms saying what happened and their legal folks decide who was to blame etc. Meanwhile, you get on with life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 The Series Land Rovers are supposed to be OK to 45 degrees, I suspect Defenders are specced down a tad to discourage people driving right on the edge, and also because all that fancy trim and carpet makes them top-heavy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmgemini Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 The Series Land Rovers are supposed to be OK to 45 degrees, I suspect Defenders are specced down a tad to discourage people driving right on the edge, and also because all that fancy trim and carpet makes them top-heavy Actually I think it's down to having coil sprins.....The Southern Africans reckon that Defenders roll easier because of the coils. Comments anybody..... mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alantd Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 Actually I think it's down to having coil sprins.....The Southern Africans reckon that Defenders roll easier because of the coils.Comments anybody..... mike I can imagine that a series would have a lower centre of gravity. Those cart springs aren't light! Isn't the body smaller as well (especially on the shorter 80, 86 and 88" chassis) with fewer SW variants. With greater axle articulation, springs could lean more at the extreme as well. Mind you, wasn't someone complaining that they make the Defenders out of thinner metal - that should help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bean Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 This was my first car 10yrs ago when i was 17..... http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=5080...mp;id=539916953 no roll over protection there, just a windscreen and some head rests. I'm sure a 110 will be better than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madcowz Posted February 20, 2008 Author Share Posted February 20, 2008 no roll over protection there, just a windscreen and some head rests.I'm sure a 110 will be better than that. But isn't that a monocoque chassis and the windscreen pillars are where the strength is? /mad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bean Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 Not in this case, it was converted from a coupe at manufacture and the sills were beefed up a bit and a strut brace fitted behind the dash other than standard Vauxhall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alantd Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 But isn't that a monocoque chassis and the windscreen pillars are where the strength is? /mad A saloon/coupe monocoque doesn't have much strength in the A pillars without the roof. Normally a rag-top conversion will have additional strengthening around the windscreen (rollover) and additional stiffening added to the sills (scuttle shake and twisting). I doubt that car would be allowed these days without some serious added protection. Doesn't bear thinking about in an accident Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmgemini Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 I've seen a Defender on a straight ghravel road with the left door pillar bent and the roof corner down to the bulkhead. It didn't look as it it had rolled. However one of the heavily laded roof racks was on the ground behind the car. They were sweeping broken bottles up, I hope it wasn't beer or cider It looked as if the rack had come l;oose or broken and flipped forward taking the pillar...... mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSG Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 I doubt that car would be allowed these days without some serious added protection. Doesn't bear thinking about in an accident True, but they is just a sign of the way health and safety has taken over and legislation has been tightened. Years ago people rode bikes without crash helmets, didn't wear seat belts, drove Series Landrovers with tilt off and screen folded flat etc. I'm not saying that it was safer then - just the accepted thing. These days we are all more aware of the risks which is a good thing, and of course the roads are busier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alantd Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Agreed. I'm not a huge fan of the health and safety culture for its own sake but your point about the roads getting busier is important - conditions have changed since those heady days. Roads busier, cars faster and don't even get me started on the kids of today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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