Badger90 Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 sorry this might be abot O/T but i went to NSEC breakers with a mate today, i found this half engine? does anyone know what this piston setup it? cheers sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 Is it a U engine? With two cranks, linked by an intermediate gear? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Attryde Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 Was it a V config? as if it is, it could be a VW V5. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger90 Posted March 10, 2010 Author Share Posted March 10, 2010 no i wasnt a v configaertion. but it a 6 cylinder lol and im not sure if its a u engine or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 Yes, definitely six cylinders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Attryde Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 As the ad says 'should have gone to specsavers' Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 Narrow angle V6, think it was the VR6 engined variants from the 90's, the V5 is very similar design. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VR6_engine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 Hmm, I discounted a V because I couldn't see any difference in angle of the bores....but clearly I was mistaken! It certainly looks like those diagrams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boothy Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 Whatever it is, it doesn't look to have a very big capacity, the water jackets are not massive suggesting it wasn't sporty or high revving and looks to have been heavy by the amount of metal in the block. Is it some sort of diesel powered boat engine, or something out of a Thwaits digger/dumper or similar ??? We could start a sweep, at a "tinny" a guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger90 Posted March 10, 2010 Author Share Posted March 10, 2010 by the looks of it a nice compact version of a v6.. like bowie said.. i would think it would be useless engine lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MECCANO Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 As bowie has said its a vr6 engine http://image.turbomagazine.com/f/8955264+w750+st0/0103_turp_09z+volkswagen_golf_vr6+block.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 They were/are a pretty bullet proof engine TBH, just servicing them is rather expensive, around 200BHP and 2.8l in original form, so not bad at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T1G UP Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 the vr6 was designed as a diesel thats the reason for the blocks strength. 15 deg V and a common heads for the block. 12v head then much improved 24v heads on later vw/audi V6 24v. same as R32 ( 3.2L) engine and R36 (3.6L) got one myself, 2.8L 204 hp, 24v 4 motion ( haldex 4wd) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger90 Posted March 10, 2010 Author Share Posted March 10, 2010 are the part hard to get hold of? do you recon will be worth building that engine up? as it just sitting there getting rusty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T1G UP Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 are the part hard to get hold of? do you recon will be worth building that engine up? as it just sitting there getting rusty chains and giudes are dear....£200 ish, 12 x everything in the heads so vavle guides etc x 12! my brother has had 2x vr6's now...pick up an engine from decent, read trusted, breakers for £300 so IMO no! 24V engines fetch alot more. lovely sound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aragorn Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 yep looks like a VR6. They're still used today, the 3.2L TT and A3, and the Q7 all use it, as does the Passat. The original idea was that it fits 6 cylinders into a small compact shape that easily fits into a transverse engine bay like that of a golf, where a normal V6 would be far too wide, and a inline 6 would be sticking out thru the drivers wing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boothy Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 Looks like I was close then, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger90 Posted March 11, 2010 Author Share Posted March 11, 2010 yeah.. so its not a cheap job.. i just think i might interesting to see what you can do with one.. and no!! im not thinking of plonking one in a land rover lol.. wont have enough toque or power will it... anyway.. it wil never be possible.. well if there a german engine.. it going to be good isnt it. cheers sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 200BHP and 200lb/ft, what the hell is wrong with that for a Land Rover? 200TDi = 107/111 BHP and 188/195 lb/ft depending on Disco/Defender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger90 Posted March 11, 2010 Author Share Posted March 11, 2010 okay the im wrong lol.. i didnt read it all propperly.. woudlnt be a struggle to wount it and hang a gearbox off it! well a landy gearbox! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will_warne Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 200BHP and 200lb/ft, what the hell is wrong with that for a Land Rover? 200TDi = 107/111 BHP and 188/195 lb/ft depending on Disco/Defender. Probably the torque curve is all wrong - it's unlikely to make enough low down. However, the stong block makes it a great candidate for supercharging and that would change things. If/when I build a lightweight comp car for UK style events it will probably use a supercharged 4 pot of about 2l - a Honda K series or a Ford/Mazda Duratec are at the top of the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxtherotti Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 you think that block looks odd you should see the w12 one now that would prob make a good engine for a landy rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 Probably the torque curve is all wrong - it's unlikely to make enough low down. Quite possibly, but it would produce *enough* From memory they pull pretty well from about 3K, but as you say a nice charger and tie it to an autobox and you're away There's quite a lot of kits out there for the VR6 actually Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger90 Posted March 11, 2010 Author Share Posted March 11, 2010 i just looked up the W12.. what awsome bit of engineering.. anyway that ideas out my league.. im not clever anough to start building engines.. well not ones i dont know lol.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicks90 Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 actually the torque and power curves for the vr6 are lovely and probably would suit a landrover quite nicely. if you google the dyno charts there are an aweful lot of them out there - most showing power gains from chips and exhaust mods, but they all seem to show a healthy 120+ torque figure from 1500rpm up to max at 4000rpm. thats a fairly flat curve. Fully dressed with ecu and loom they are going for about £500 on the bay-of-E. Go on, whos gonna have a go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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