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doing 60mph on dual carridgeway in 110 2002 rear offside wheel locked up, big black skid mark. pulled over and felt wheel no real heat build up. made way to a layby car as normal but then felt a dragging. parked up removed wheel,pads, pushed in pistons easily, replaced pads and wheels drove off got to next layby and felt dragging and a noise. called AA for a lift home. put car in garage explained as above, they cleaned caliper, brakes and passed ok.i took it for drive got heat into brakes and could hear a bad noise from rear. since initial lock up brake pedal is abit squiggy any ideas.thanks

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Wheel bearings perhaps?

i was thinking this but no noise or movement when wheels spun cold. i will be checking bearings but its strange brake pedal has gone abit spongy since. thanks for reply

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got to be a wheel bearing probably partially siezing on the stub axle.

a garage would find that though after i described what happened surely. i will be checking though thanks for reply

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Clutching at straws, But -- how about a tooth or bearing type bit in the diff broken/dropped/chipped off and floating around inside, occasionally getting locked in the crown wheel/internls ? Drop the oil and see what comes out :unsure:

Then i could be totally wrong though :) Sounds a tad scarey for sure, Glad all are ok

If none of the above at least you have lovely new diff oils in it now ;)

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Would it have anything to do with the diff?? If bearing's etc have been checked???

i was wondering along these lines, i will start with basics , i am hopeing to find someone who may have experienced the same. i really hope it is the cheaper basics , thanks for your reply

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Clutching at straws, But -- how about a tooth or bearing type bit in the diff broken/dropped/chipped off and floating around inside, occasionally getting locked in the crown wheel/internls ? Drop the oil and see what comes out :unsure:

Then i could be totally wrong though :) Sounds a tad scarey for sure, Glad all are ok

If none of the above at least you have lovely new diff oils in it now ;)

as i'm down there i will drop the plug and have a look. thanks

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I had this on the front right - no early warning signs of bearing failure from noise but the wheel locked solid for about 20 feet at 60mph throwing me the other side of the road into the path of a Fiat Punto

Serious brown trousers moment for me, and the Punto driver!! :ph34r::ph34r:

I then limped it up the road with no further problems ready to trailer it home.

On inspection the bearing had welded itself to the stub axle!

If the bearing has wear in it allowing the hub to move side to side slightly then the movement can push the pads out giving you spongy brakes until the pads push everything back into the center.

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If the bearing has wear in it allowing the hub to move side to side slightly then the movement can push the pads out giving you spongy brakes until the pads push everything back into the center.

Agreed: Wheel bearing allowing the pads to be pushed back was my thought on reading this and after a recent experience. You need to take the half shaft and brake pads out to really check for play or roughness - mine felt fine (smooth when spun) but had several mm of play which did make the brake travel increase.

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I had this on the front right - no early warning signs of bearing failure from noise but the wheel locked solid for about 20 feet at 60mph throwing me the other side of the road into the path of a Fiat Punto

Serious brown trousers moment for me, and the Punto driver!! :ph34r::ph34r:

I then limped it up the road with no further problems ready to trailer it home.

On inspection the bearing had welded itself to the stub axle!

If the bearing has wear in it allowing the hub to move side to side slightly then the movement can push the pads out giving you spongy brakes until the pads push everything back into the center.

thanks for that, makes alot of sense. i was towing a car trailer and i think that helped me keep control.

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Agreed: Wheel bearing allowing the pads to be pushed back was my thought on reading this and after a recent experience. You need to take the half shaft and brake pads out to really check for play or roughness - mine felt fine (smooth when spun) but had several mm of play which did make the brake travel increase.

thanks. this makes alot of sense when you think about it outside the box.

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i was towing a car trailer and i think that helped me keep control.

Frankly, if you managed to retain control (of either of the vehicle or your bodily functions) under those circumstances then I, for one, take my hat off to you sir!

Nick.

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thanks everyone for your help and advice. outer bearings or what was left of them was the problem. completely mashed. big locking washer had welded itself to hub. big puller required to get it all off. half shaft splines twisted outer ones. stub axle had it not pretty at all. what i still struggle too believe is that the garage i gave it to didn't notice this big problem after i described what happened. i better start looking for some parts and a good idea to check the other side. thanks again everyone.

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I wouldnt just check the other side, probably best just to replace them and maybe the fronts.... would be a little more scary if it happened on the front!

Replacing one set of bearings cost me nigh-on £40 - at that rate I replaced only the one that needed it! The others I stripped, checked and re-assembled.

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just priceing up what i need, stub axle,drive member,half shaft,bearings,gaskets,seals and i'm nearly hitting £200 so i may go for a set of bearings for the other side at least. will be checking the front asap. thanks again

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