lansalot Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 Finally getting round to the engine transplant. Two hours of work (damn, aren't land rovers easy) got me to the stage of ready to lift it out. Will be moving various bits over to the new engine including the pulleys etc. I see a very deep socket is perhaps going to be needed to loosen the crank pulley (or do they just unbolt off the face?). But, I'm curious - what's the design on the end of this for? I wasn't planning on rodding any drains with it... One-way drive for something (not that my engine is supposed to turn backwards..) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v8bertha Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 Thats the old crank handle doo-dar. To remove the pulley you'll need to remove the bolt as you said with a deep socket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lansalot Posted April 4, 2011 Author Share Posted April 4, 2011 Crank handle? Seriously?? I better start eating my porridge then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Freak Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 From the picture, it doesn't look like a doo-dar... Have you prodded it with a screwdriver? Looks rubber.. Has someone put a bit of hose over the thread for protection... Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lansalot Posted April 4, 2011 Author Share Posted April 4, 2011 I haven't prodded it yet, but now I'm dying to! I had thought it was metal from a look, but something to protect the thread sounds more like it. If it is to protect the threads, then it's quite possibly the only decent mod the previous owner did on this truck. (next-stop, replace the unpainted roll-cage section you can poke your hand through) It's like the end of the corkscrew bit you stick down the end of your drains when the rods come out.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 Looks like a slightly broken(one ear missing) crank handle thingy Land Rovers easy to work on........? I could get the engine out of my MKI Fiesta in 45 mins, and that was doing the job properly.... no gas axe involved! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lansalot Posted April 4, 2011 Author Share Posted April 4, 2011 45 minutes? I thought I was doing well at 2 hours, just me and Mr Fosters (4%, ABV).... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRecklessEngineer Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 I've seen one of them before on a very old V8. I guessed then it was for a crank handle - I might be wrong though! (If you change it for a normal one...could you bung it in the post? I love the idea of hand cranking an EFI engine!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missingsid Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 Crank handle dog as said. Early RRC and all LRs were agricultural vehicles once! Marc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lansalot Posted April 4, 2011 Author Share Posted April 4, 2011 Could you seriously hand-crank a V8 into life ? Front crossmember in the way a little too I bet.. ;-) Can't wait to get home and find out more now. That said, I just can't wait to get home. Work. Only fools and horses, Trig... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 Yup Thats a kanckered looking 'crank handle' type pulley bolt, got a couple kicking about in the workshop can be replaced with std Bolt type if needed, and these can be Ferkin tight too Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_s Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 it's the dog for a cranking handle. my dad had a 1980 RRC which had one. when the battery was too low to start it, we got it running by cranking on the starter while using the cranking handle. it was hard work but it did actually work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lansalot Posted April 4, 2011 Author Share Posted April 4, 2011 OK, I can bet the sockets I have aren't going to fit that. And if they do, it's going to be a person I'm not that keen on of a job. Any tips here guys, how to get my pulleys off ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 Buy the correct socket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRecklessEngineer Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 Standard LR Method (Not endorsed in any way at all as it has the potential to do damage to you and your vehicle!) : Fit socket to breaker bar. Rotate until bar is about 1" under chassis rail. Turn engine on starter (disable engine from starting too!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lansalot Posted April 4, 2011 Author Share Posted April 4, 2011 Standard LR Method (Not endorsed in any way at all as it has the potential to do damage to you and your vehicle!) : Fit socket to breaker bar. Rotate until bar is about 1" under chassis rail. Turn engine on starter (disable engine from starting too!). That sounds a bit reckless! (oh, wait... ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 I've never found it to be that bad a job tbh, go to tool shop, spend all of a fiver on the correct deep socket, stick breaker bar on & undo it Or alternatively spend days p*ssing about for the sake of a fiver in std LR owner fashion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lansalot Posted April 4, 2011 Author Share Posted April 4, 2011 Socket it is. Any idea of size ? (he said, betting there's about a dozen different sizes...) Oh, and these undo in the clockwise direction, don't they.. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zardos Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 From memory it's a 24mm and undo is anti clockwise (when looking at the engine from the front) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonost24 Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 Try this for hand crank. Another thumbs up for MS...... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1Zcf5ppFTk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lansalot Posted April 4, 2011 Author Share Posted April 4, 2011 OK, I did a little measuring. The engine going in, it looks to be about 24-5mm (and a 15/16ths fits well). So that's fine. However, measuring the old one you see in the picture, it's around 32mm !! And I'm going to need a length of around 40mm to get over that shank to get to it. Nightmare. I just know this is going to be an ordeal already... Does the 32mm sound familiar to anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Hancock Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 Hand starting an RV8? Try hand starting a Rolls Royce B81, thats 6.5ltr of straight 8 petrol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 Buy the correct socket Yup, that will be the only way, these are on Tighyt as a tight thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoltan Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 OK, I did a little measuring. The engine going in, it looks to be about 24-5mm (and a 15/16ths fits well). So that's fine. However, measuring the old one you see in the picture, it's around 32mm !! And I'm going to need a length of around 40mm to get over that shank to get to it. Nightmare. I just know this is going to be an ordeal already... Does the 32mm sound familiar to anyone? The old one for the starter handle probably is about 32mm as 24mm sounds very small in diameter to get the dogs for the starting handle on plus a shaft diameter Buy two sockets and one bolt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 Just measured one I Fink its Imperial - 1 5/16 Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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