ejparrott Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 As you know we're deep into rebuilding our 88 after an RTC, and while doing it I thought I'd take out a few more bolts and fit the recon'd gearbox I've had since November. Working alone, and not being able to get my hoist near the gearbox to lift it, I thought I'd split the t'box and main box in situ, remove in two pieces, then refit main to engine, followed by t'box to main. Splitting the joint between t'box and main on a series transmission requires the removal of the intermediate gear cluster in the t'box, and with a standard drum handbrake that would have entailed backing off adjusters, removing the drum and then the backplate, and looking forward to getting the whole damn thing readjusted again afterwards. Not with an X-Brake!! I discovered that merely loosing off the 6 nuts holding the brake disc to the drive flange was enough to allow it to just move clear of the exiting shaft, so 2 minutes work, and no adjustments to try and do again! I'd love to say it was a brilliant investment, but I was given it used by my brother when he changed to LT in his 109, and the first set of pads got soaked in oil, but its been brilliant ever since!! Must get one for The 109, but for now [touch wood] its LR brake is working well [/touch wood]! Just thought I'd share it with you folks, I was that happy with it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonr Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Cheque in post Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Yep, very good bits of kit. Got one on my 90 which is great, and works fabulously with the RRC handbrake lever. The 110 came with one too, number two x-brake I'm led to believe They take some abuse too! I've parked my 90 on some silly hills and it holds it without any creeping. And I'll admit to having winched 30 yards with it on at Seven Sisters last year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 I have one in a box on my bedroom floor currently... need to get a new hand brake cable and then I can fit it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted March 20, 2012 Author Share Posted March 20, 2012 You'll love it, trust me, I do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Oh I will . Standard drum is usually full of carp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 I have one on my 110 that weighs in at 2.7tons, held on a steepish hill with a large trailer and an Jag XKR that alone weighs 2.2tons on the back, must be around 6 tons all up. I know the XBrake is OK but what about the cable!! John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickeyw Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Oh I will . Standard drum is usually full of carp Ross, how can this be? You don't take it out enough for that to happen Have to agree, the X-brake does reduce the maintenance requirements nicely. Holds well on a slope too, shame the tyres don't grip as well as the HB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Ross, how can this be? You don't take it out enough for that to happen Have to agree, the X-brake does reduce the maintenance requirements nicely. Holds well on a slope too, shame the tyres don't grip as well as the HB Well it proves how useless the drum is if my 'little' use can clog it up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 I know the XBrake is OK but what about the cable!! John Well that is true. One argument for always leaving it in gear as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CwazyWabbit Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 I'm sure if you paid Si enough he would make a back plate which held two calipers, you could then have twin brakes for redundancy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonr Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Certainly! Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Who needs two calipers? why not just have two cables? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonr Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 I think that if you are going down the redundancy route, unless you replicate everything, you are just moving the likely failure point. I would go for two calipers, cables and levers. Maybe a spare driver too! Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 If you had two cables what would be the next failure point? and would it be less likely than breaking a cable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted March 21, 2012 Author Share Posted March 21, 2012 Carry a brick.......I used to...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickwilliams Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Surely an anchor and chain has less chance of a common mode failure - and can be used to substitute for the foot brake as well in an emergency. Nick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CwazyWabbit Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Surely an anchor and chain has less chance of a common mode failure - and can be used to substitute for the foot brake as well in an emergency. Nick. Interesting solution, a normal hand brake works well where there is a solid surface under the wheels, an anchor would work well for those times you have to park up on mud or other soft surfaces..... although not sure how easy a hill start would be.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratty43 Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Back in the very early days of motoring there were cars with a spike that was wound into the ground to stop the vehicle moving. Obviously predates surfaced roads, can't see the highways agency approving! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zim Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 I know the XBrake is OK but what about the cable!! John I run a small master cylinder to operate my handbrake caliper. Looks pretty similar to an x-brake, but i've used a LR rear caliper and made my own disc mount by machining up an old drum. Like the above comments, my problem was the cable filling with **** and thus sticking. My truck only gets used for challenges then sits in the workshop for weeks without really moving, hence stuff siezing up. *This is not a road legal vehicle. If i drove a landrover on the road, i'd have an x-brake G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zim Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Carry a brick.......I used to...... Anybody else remember the 'Gods Must Be Crazy' scene where he parks the old series to open the gate whilst leaving the woman sat in it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Anybody else remember the 'Gods Must Be Crazy' scene where he parks the old series to open the gate whilst leaving the woman sat in it ? Don't worry, it will come back! The Land Rover will come back! Excellent film. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted March 22, 2012 Author Share Posted March 22, 2012 classic... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ejparrott Posted March 22, 2012 Author Share Posted March 22, 2012 never did have a bonnet or any glass in the screen did it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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