Nigelw Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 What am I likely to be looking to pay for a reasonable TIG with a foot pedal control up to say 150A? After an hours practice session I found the scratch start acceptable on steel and was horrified on ally!!! Put it on the pedal and ally went ok'ish but practice needed!!! This is all in aid of a pet project but what and why would you recommend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandyManLuke Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 For the DIY-er, R-tech seem to come out pretty well in the middle ground. They're reasonable machines, going on reviews etc, but they're not as expensive as pro machines. http://www.r-techwelding.co.uk/welding_equipment/Tig_Welder/Tig_Welder_R-Tech_Tig161 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o_teunico Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 I will go for a 3 in 1 or 4 in 1 (that is, MMA, TIG, pulsed TIG for alloys and plasma cutter). You can find some cheap ones at e-bay, but beware of shipping cost, as the rise overall price quite a lot. Here just an example http://www.ebay.com/itm/CT-312-TIG120-ARC-120-CUT-30-3-in-1-Welding-machine-PT-31-Torch-220V-240V-/260903971101?pt=BI_Welders&hash=item3cbf16a91d Problem with TIG is the expense the Argon bottle. My brother bought some years ago a Selco Inverter MMA welder, suitable also for TIG. Last year he converted it to TIG, but TIG torch + bottle (no pedal, hand operated) were not cheap, about 500€ (and it was a sale!). Price of original inverter was half of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o_teunico Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 This one comes from Berlin and has good shipping costs. 120Amp TIG and up to 12mm cutting in plasma mode. http://www.ebay.es/itm/PROFI-WIG-TIG-MMA-KOMBI-SCHWEIsGERAT-PLASMASCHNEIDER-INVERTER-3in1-230V-4M-KABEL-/170867160148?pt=Schwei%C3%9F_L%C3%B6ttechnik&hash=item27c879f454 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Don't rule out good second hand one Miller Kempi etc new : http://www.migtigarc.co.uk/TIG_Welder/tig_welder.html Esab, thermal arc and thermodyne are good, and also non invertor - MTA AC/DC 185, 225, 265 Tig Welders I have used a 225 and it was very nice and stable AC even more importnat is a good maker as the prices near double. Consider a watercooled torch with flexible head too, then you can have a lioghtweight small torch thats does thicker stuff than you'd think HTHNige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigelw Posted January 24, 2013 Author Share Posted January 24, 2013 Don't rule out good second hand oneMiller Kempi etc new : http://www.migtigarc.co.uk/TIG_Welder/tig_welder.html Esab, thermal arc and thermodyne are good, and also non invertor - MTA AC/DC 185, 225, 265 Tig Welders I have used a 225 and it was very nice and stable AC even more importnat is a good maker as the prices near double. Consider a watercooled torch with flexible head too, then you can have a lioghtweight small torch thats does thicker stuff than you'd think HTH Nige o_teunico the trouble with those machines is that they are all scratch start and with the ally welding I will need the pedal control, I like the idea of being able to stick TIG and plasma cut so maybe it would be worth a shot in the future? HFH now you have given me something to think on!!! Spot on with the second hand, I know I am silly sometimes and try to buy new but that is probably my best bet TBH, and I also made a new contact a week or so ago who does disposal of industrial equipment and salvage, they handle a lot of bankruptcy stock clearance and the likes so it is perfectly possible that a visit to their warehouses might yield something? I have an advantage too that I have three phase electricity in my barn and as a lot of the bigger stuff is 3P there will be some good stuff to be had I am sure. Thanks for the wake up.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandyManLuke Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 If you've got 3ph and some space, definitely look for something industrial. The old miller machines for example are the size of a house and most are 3 phase/400v. Ideal for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o_teunico Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Having 3ph chages it all! Industrial/Pro equippment will certainly be heavy duty and will withstand years of abuse, even if they are second hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 I've got a green2k invertor stick welded which is TIG capable....I keep wondering about the TIG kit for it, but I don't know anyone else using one who can comment. The stick welds it produces are beautiful, far better than an AC welder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Green 3 K even...who appear to have gone bust! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roguevogue Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Something like eBay item number 190788134825. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve200TDi Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Something like eBay item number 190788134825. Here's a more user friendly link! http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/190788134825?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_sadis%3D200%26_ipg%3D50%26LH_SALE_CURRENCY%3D0%26_sacat%3D0%26_samihi%3D%26_samilow%3D%26_fpos%3D%26_ftrt%3D901%26_oexkw%3D%26_udhi%3D%26_sabdhi%3D%26_ftrv%3D1%26_udlo%3D%26_sabdlo%3D%26_adv%3D1%26_sop%3D12%26_dmd%3D1%26_okw%3D%26_nkw%3D190788134825%26_rdc%3D1 Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigelw Posted January 26, 2013 Author Share Posted January 26, 2013 Here's a more user friendly link! http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/190788134825?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_sadis%3D200%26_ipg%3D50%26LH_SALE_CURRENCY%3D0%26_sacat%3D0%26_samihi%3D%26_samilow%3D%26_fpos%3D%26_ftrt%3D901%26_oexkw%3D%26_udhi%3D%26_sabdhi%3D%26_ftrv%3D1%26_udlo%3D%26_sabdlo%3D%26_adv%3D1%26_sop%3D12%26_dmd%3D1%26_okw%3D%26_nkw%3D190788134825%26_rdc%3D1 Steve I like, shame it is in the UK, but looking in to the shipping costs as I type, you never know, might end up here after all..... Question is, would I ever use the MIG again after buying it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandyManLuke Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Yes, I don't think TIG is much fun in silly positions, laying under a vehicle etc etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roguevogue Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Here's a more user friendly link! http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/190788134825?ru=http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_sadis=200&_ipg=50&LH_SALE_CURRENCY=0&_sacat=0&_samihi=&_samilow=&_fpos=&_ftrt=901&_oexkw=&_udhi=&_sabdhi=&_ftrv=1&_udlo=&_sabdlo=&_adv=1&_sop=12&_dmd=1&_okw=&_nkw=190788134825&_rdc=1 Thanks Steve, I posted on my iPad and copying the link isn't a goer using the eBay app.I'll stop looking now I know you can't use it if it's in the uk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigelw Posted January 29, 2013 Author Share Posted January 29, 2013 Oh dear........ I nearly had a trouser accident this afternoon whilst visiting the warehouse, you should have seen the kit in there!!! I want one of everything not just the TIG They had everything, I got really excited when I saw a full 200T press sitting there in the corner of the yard, OMG they had plate benders, pillar drills, metal turning lathes, wood turning lathes, fork lift trucks, and some other stuff I have no idea what it was for but seriously cool!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Where was that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigelw Posted January 29, 2013 Author Share Posted January 29, 2013 Where was that? Alken, just outside Hasselt in Belgium. Best thing is there is another place I have found too so gonna arrange me a visit there, will take my camera this time so you can see what is there!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CwazyWabbit Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 ......will take my camera this time so you can see what is there!!! Tool porn! Ace!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o_teunico Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Oh yes, I love tool porn too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Best thing is there is another place I have found too so gonna arrange me a visit there, will take my camera this time so you can see what is there!!! Did you go yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigelw Posted February 14, 2013 Author Share Posted February 14, 2013 Not yet as I am having to go out on the road with my boss taking X-rays and I need to make an appointment to go and look round!!! I have not forgotten but will deffo be next week for sure as the auction is tomorrow night and all of the X-rays are done now so a few disappointed owners who won't be taking their horses there but at least I can get on with my car now and visit the warehouse, been rubbish getting back dipping in to the forum and back out for more X-rays, as you can tell, my least favorite activity at the practice, especially when we are not getting back until 8PM and I hate young horses!! Especially those that want to kill ya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverik Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 All horses want to kill you I've decided, when they're nice they're just planning your painful end... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Part1cle Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 All horses want to kill you I've decided, when they're nice they're just planning bite your painful end... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Can't say I've ever had much problem....the sh**land did bite the wife once, she bit him back and he's never dared try again since! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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