DC_ Posted July 30, 2016 Author Share Posted July 30, 2016 The damper never moved, the pulley did and is now separated from the damper.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve b Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 It may be time to hire a small set of bottles ( oxy/propane or oxy acet ) and get some real heat onto the hub , it will end up as scrap but it will be off . It's held on by rust I'd say just from the almighty struggle you had to get the unbolted pulley off, it's a slide fit normally , but you could just put the flywheel pin in and take a look at where the key is - should be at 12 o'clock . cheers Steveb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 The damper never moved, the pulley did and is now separated from the damper.... exactly how it's meant to be, now you've got to pull the damper unit off the crank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_ Posted July 30, 2016 Author Share Posted July 30, 2016 Once again guys, you have no idea how much all these comments and advice is appreciated..... Thank you ! Ok, we've tried what we could with what we've got..... Tomorrow is another day ...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_ Posted July 30, 2016 Author Share Posted July 30, 2016 Western if only I knew !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 best wishes for tomorrow;s instalment of the story, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_ Posted July 31, 2016 Author Share Posted July 31, 2016 Ok the set up we now have in place to try again for today, (last chance until the weekend again) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Good luck ! Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Sparkes Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Too late, but that forcing screw looks under lubricated to me. ALL forcing screws, no matter what they are forcing, should have both the female and male threads comprehensively lubricated with an Extreme Pressure lubricant before being assembled. As we are talking Land Rovers there should be some EP 90 around. Without such lubricant, it doesn't matter how much leverage is used, a significant proportion is being wasted simply overcoming the friction in the thread. Oviously the greater the force being used the greater the thread friction losses. Regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_ Posted July 31, 2016 Author Share Posted July 31, 2016 I'll bare that in mind David thanks. Had no idea we had to lube the actual puller..... Well the result of the makeshift puller.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 oh dear, new pulley required, you don't need that in place to extract the damper from the crankshaft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephencdavies Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Daft question. the damper hasnt been secured with a roll pin or grub screw has it. At work if we had a pulley on a motor that was slipping, we'd drill and a hole and tap a thread in it to put a grub screw in or just push a roll pin in. it does appear very odd that the damper wont budge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_ Posted July 31, 2016 Author Share Posted July 31, 2016 So then we thought of this...... After offering it up we realised the bolts weren't going to be long enough as I could only get my hands on M8 X 70mm HT. So, we got the angry grinder and took off the nose on the damper to allow it closer to the stuck damper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_ Posted July 31, 2016 Author Share Posted July 31, 2016 Now, this little rusty flake doesn't mean a lot, but, it means the world to me because previously it was right against the timing belt casing..... Yes it could be that it's moving due to the vibration but to me I can see a crack of space between the damper and the rubber seal on the timing belt casing !! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_ Posted July 31, 2016 Author Share Posted July 31, 2016 This next one is dedicated to every single forum member that took the trouble to think about a solution and to offer advice...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_ Posted July 31, 2016 Author Share Posted July 31, 2016 IT'S BLOODY OFF !!! Crack the champagne !! (Or a few cold beers) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephencdavies Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_ Posted July 31, 2016 Author Share Posted July 31, 2016 Now who can say what the heck this is that's on the shaft?? I'll post a few pics later showing the final stages of it all..... I actually jumped about with joy :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephencdavies Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 This thread needs to be made in to a movie. brilliant job done. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zim Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 For the question you asked a few pages ago.... I think that chip out your pulley may have an effect on the belt :p 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Looks like a badly corroded crank nose to me. Not sure about the black stuff though. If you can feel it on the surface of the mental then the damper was glued on. Les. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_ Posted July 31, 2016 Author Share Posted July 31, 2016 I even got treated to an Indian from the Mrs, We have no idea why this was glued on as the crank bolt goes in and tightens fine...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Good job, good to see a good result, all that mess on crank, looks like old loctite & corrosion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Bravo ! Mo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Interesting thread, GREAT result and one to store up for later as I have pretty much the same engine... Well done for being that patient. I'm sure I'd have been in a with a drill/grinder days ago! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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