David Sparkes Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 There is a website with the url http://www.ep90.com/ The url is still valid, but the content has gone; I think it was someone on here that owned the url. It had some information I had found extremely useful, so useful that I felt sure I had copied it onto my PC, so as not to lose it. Obviously, I have lost it, to my extreme irritation. I have found the bookmark link which I had named 'EP90.COM » LR Part Number decryption'. 'Part Number' was not perhaps accurate on my behalf. The details explained how standard LR part numbers for Nuts, Screws, Washers, and Bolts, could be broken down to show diameter, length, thread, finish, etc. I had used it successfully in reverse, to create part numbers for a required item, enabling me to Search the standard websites to see if that size, or something close, existed. For instance, anything starting SH604 is 1/4" diameter UNF thread. Length increases in units of 1/8", so SH604051L is 5/8" long, while SH604081L is 1" long. Obviously this doesn't apply to every single NSWB that LR do, but it was, and is, a useful way to identify threaded items which are often available at economic costs for small quatities from 'the usual suppliers'. More useful if you happen to live close to one of them, as I do!! Does anyone recall this information please? Are you the URL owner and could let me have the original details (again), please? I also recall finding similar information on a Jaguar enthusiasts website, but I have less likelihood finding that. Regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 I printed a copy of that page for my workshop & parts books, here's a photo of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Sparkes Posted October 29, 2017 Author Share Posted October 29, 2017 Thankyou, that's the one. Regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPendrey Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Something like this... https://web.archive.org/web/20110519035353/http://ep90.com/index.php?id=28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 IIRC the EP90.com site belongs to TSD a member on here. avatar is the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSD Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 (edited) Yep, that's me The site was killed by a host server upgrade some time ago, and I never got around to doing anything about it. I do have all the original content backed up somewhere, so I'm sure I can dig out anything that was useful to anyone. I had some plans to revamp the site to cover the build of 2Bex, the LWB Ibex that some swine from this forum cajoled me into buying earlier this year, but not much has happened there yet (on the website at least, the ibex build is under way) In the meantime, I just knocked the fastener page source out into a pdf file Fastener Info Hope that's useful Edited October 29, 2017 by TSD The editor on this site both sucks and blows 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSD Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 BTW Western, your printed version is out of date 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Good to see you still have all the info, out of date is better than nothing 😃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missingsid Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Hi TSD, your PDF has a link at the bottom for more info but does not work, is it worth providing again? Either way thanks for posting as I had been looking for this type of info. Do you know what strength bolts are used or are they just 8.8? My local fastener shop said that all automotive bolts are 8.8 min although not required and that they don't stock them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 11 hours ago, TSD said: I had some plans to revamp the site to cover the build of 2Bex, the LWB Ibex that some swine from this forum cajoled me into buying earlier this year, but not much has happened there yet (on the website at least, the ibex build is under way) . Mike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 8.8ht is the minimum strength for vehicles, lots of bolts on our vehicles are marked 8.8 on the bolt heads, certainly on suspension & steering components, haven't found a bolt on my 110 that is not HT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSD Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 1 hour ago, missingsid said: Hi TSD, your PDF has a link at the bottom for more info but does not work, is it worth providing again? Either way thanks for posting as I had been looking for this type of info. Do you know what strength bolts are used or are they just 8.8? My local fastener shop said that all automotive bolts are 8.8 min although not required and that they don't stock them? Some people are just never bleedin' 'appy. I've edited the pdf and re-uploaded it. As for bolt strength, as western said, 8.8 is a minimum. Even if it weren't, some of the cheap fasteners out there give you the feeling you could take the tinfoil off and eat the chocolate inside. I've wondered about the rating for some of the fastener part numbers, but not got around to researching it any further. Things like stub axle mounting bolts SX110256 might well be 10.9 or even 12.9 but all the one's I've seen were not marked. Fastener tech is complex enough that the smart move is to source the correct part at this point (and for my money not one that comes in a blue box ). I've spent quite a few hours recently replacing stainless bolts fitted by the various previous owners on 2Bex. I personally don't like using stainless without a good reason anyway, but in places like the a-frame mounting brackets I reckon a couple of quid spent on HT hardware is money well spent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missingsid Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Thanks, As for cheap tin foil bolts you can't have worked on a Disco 3 then!! Absolutely chocolate Chinese steel everywhere, 10mm bolt to hold a plastic panel on, head turns off with no warning even using small tools! Mine is an early one so the torque settings were far too high (LR lowered them in later years). Oil change required an air chisel on the sump drain bolt as the head is too soft with too high a torque setting in an alloy sump, real brown trousers moment as I gave the mechanic permission to go ahead! Diff drain anf filler plugs that need to be drilled out as mot even a professional extractor kit can grip in the chocolate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSD Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 All too familiar with D3 fasteners, the current daily driver is on '05 tdv6. My personal favourite is the inaccessible, torque controlled (aka small headed) M8 bolts into sheet metal clips through the chassis to hold the diecast ali compressor bracket. What could possibly go wrong there? M8 sheet metal clips FFS, I'm going to stop now before I start ranting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cackshifter Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 The last digit was the fastener finish. I remember 0 is natural finish, 1 zinc plate & 5 black phosphate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daan Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 On 29/10/2017 at 7:33 PM, TSD said: the ibex build is under way A build thread would be great, and would spur on Mike to get his finger out. Daan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Mine is stalled purely on financial grounds. It only needs a couple of weeks of evenings to be ready for the IVA but I can't afford to put it on the road at the moment. So it will have to sit there till I can. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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