De Ranged Posted September 13, 2020 Author Share Posted September 13, 2020 I need some inspiration..... I'm away for work, and to entertian myself in my spare time I've been playing with a design for Nut, Bolt and Small goods storage.... to save space I've come up with a bit of an idea Using parts bins (the cheapest I can find in NZ) https://www.supercheapauto.co.nz/p/sca-sca-parts-bin-tray-set-with-rail-8-piece/529292.html?cgid=SCN010510#start=44 I'm going to make a cabinet that is double sided The idea is it will be on a frame attatched to the wall and roof of a container... they will be stored end on (green sheet facing out, 2 possibly 3 cabinetts) when I want something I pull it out end first, when I have it out far enough I will be able to spin it on a bearing centered on the top so I can access both sides. That and the main cabinet that will house these are the easy bits lol What I've been trying to sort out is the bearing system at the top I was working on a tapered roller bearing (a wheel bearing since I have heaps lol) my suspended weight is going to be worst case 130kg but its not going to be even (one side or one end could be alot heavier or lighter) so I'm wondering if I need to put a second bearing to stabilize.... lol Typing this up and having to think how to discribe this has dropped the "blinders".... ever find your train of thought gets caught on a track and focus's on only that direction.... more to come Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 I'd have thought a tapered roller at the bottom makes sense but it could be overkill at the top. Your structure would have to be very rigid to hold adjustment, while the bottom is self-adjusted via gravity. Maybe something like a sturdy teflon bush at the top, which only gets a side loading? Just a rambling thought, sorry - I'm just about to grab a chainsaw and some rope and head up a mate's pine tree to scare myself a bit, so the brain's slightly distracted! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De Ranged Posted September 14, 2020 Author Share Posted September 14, 2020 23 hours ago, deep said: I'd have thought a tapered roller at the bottom makes sense but it could be overkill at the top. Your structure would have to be very rigid to hold adjustment, while the bottom is self-adjusted via gravity. Maybe something like a sturdy teflon bush at the top, which only gets a side loading? Just a rambling thought, sorry - I'm just about to grab a chainsaw and some rope and head up a mate's pine tree to scare myself a bit, so the brain's slightly distracted! The bottom has several issues... The biggest is the rail system, by having it on roof I can have the rails extend out over the walkway down the middle of the container without effecting my abilty to move down the walkway area, if I have it from below I'm up for something similar to a draw slider system which over time will wear and sag Why wont gravity work on the bearing when its hanging on it from above (you are distracted lol) I think for the amount of load and use. Nylon would be plenty and I happen to have a box of nylon bushes lol No my epiphany wasn't about the design, I've got a nice simple answer for that, that will also adjust height..... it was about where I'm placing this, I was so focused on the design I overlooked the space I need to use it lol Hope your tree went all good Deep, if you haven't done it yet I'm happy to loan you my Arb gear (harness, ropes, throwlines etc) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Your workshop ‘side’ projects are bigger than my main projects 😳😮😊 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 48 minutes ago, De Ranged said: The bottom has several issues... The biggest is the rail system, by having it on roof I can have the rails extend out over the walkway down the middle of the container without effecting my abilty to move down the walkway area, if I have it from below I'm up for something similar to a draw slider system which over time will wear and sag Why wont gravity work on the bearing when its hanging on it from above (you are distracted lol) I think for the amount of load and use. Nylon would be plenty and I happen to have a box of nylon bushes lol No my epiphany wasn't about the design, I've got a nice simple answer for that, that will also adjust height..... it was about where I'm placing this, I was so focused on the design I overlooked the space I need to use it lol Hope your tree went all good Deep, if you haven't done it yet I'm happy to loan you my Arb gear (harness, ropes, throwlines etc) The tree went well, thanks. A mature twin pine leaning in a very bad direction over a building site. It had to swing about 120 degrees to miss everything, so it took some thinking. We picked a day with a strong, favourable wind and used the Land Rover winch with snatch block to apply a compensatory load. Then I went up with my own ropes and harness (recent purchase but I did it for work years ago) and trimmed a fair bit of weight off the bad side. Could have been easier if I hadn't sold my arborist saw last week - the "mid-sized" saw isn't ideal in a tight spot like that! Slowest part was getting the rope up to start with. I definitely need a throwline that works better than a bit of galv pipe, ahem. Anyway, both trunks came down perfectly and I was pretty chuffed. Quite stiff today though. Might get some spikes for the next tree... And sorry, didn't read your other post properly and didn't realise it was a hanging design, duh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De Ranged Posted September 15, 2020 Author Share Posted September 15, 2020 6 hours ago, Anderzander said: Your workshop ‘side’ projects are bigger than my main projects 😳😮😊 Lol I like to learn and develope so on my stuff I tend to push the limits.... and this is for my new shop witch is sort of a dream come true so i want it to be a bit next level 6 hours ago, deep said: Quite stiff today though. Might get some spikes for the next tree... I did a job for the neibour a yr ago and it was painfull lol I was slow and struggled and to be honest it was an easy climb..... its amazing how fast you loose that ability 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arjan Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 ".. I definitely need a throwline that works better than a bit of galv pipe, ahem. .." I use dummy's we use for working the dogs for that - very effective. ...and I once lost one and the dog found it for me.. 😄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 On 9/15/2020 at 7:58 AM, Anderzander said: Your workshop ‘side’ projects are bigger than my main projects 😳😮😊 My current project is a strip and re-purpose of an old farm trailer to make it a road trailer (fitting springs, replacing wooden bearers with steel, making sides etc. etc.). I feel like a kid playing in a sandpit next to any of DeRanged's sidetracks! I've been in his old workshop and everything is just so well done. It's amazing. Actually, I used the big shackles I bought off him on my first visit to help pull that tree over, so we've neatly tied this thread together again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De Ranged Posted September 17, 2020 Author Share Posted September 17, 2020 On 9/16/2020 at 8:29 AM, deep said: My current project is a strip and re-purpose of an old farm trailer to make it a road trailer (fitting springs, replacing wooden bearers with steel, making sides etc. etc.). I feel like a kid playing in a sandpit next to any of DeRanged's sidetracks! I've been in his old workshop and everything is just so well done. It's amazing. Actually, I used the big shackles I bought off him on my first visit to help pull that tree over, so we've neatly tied this thread together again! Thank you for the comment glad you are able to put them to use lol they were just gathering dust with me.... your always welcome back over to share a beer Got a rough design sorted for the pivot and carrage etc but need dimensions to finish it off.... will sort that when I'm home Was thinking about the storage of things for the new shed, and came up with a redesign of my corner build scales..... so they will fit in a case with there display and cable, yes it is sort of OCD but I grew up in my fathers shed where to find something was a 45min waste of time lol he was all good ask him and he'd know where 3 of them were... I do have a habit of putting things down but I work to the idea if a tool has a place and it goes back its easy to find it next time so..... I narrowed the scales to fit in cases The holes in the sides are for M8 grub screws so I can lock the ends on when I take the counter sunk caps out to fit studs, the studs will fit to extentions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De Ranged Posted October 27, 2020 Author Share Posted October 27, 2020 Been a bit distracted.... I got some work, some actual paying work lol.... Bl..dy Covid cr@p But back in the shop and nearly cleared my mates truck.... so started into some of my (long list of) projects lol cutting the bolt collets for the chassis table only 40 more to do lol Finally got a shower enclosure from a builder mate So I can start to build a solar air heater for the shed..... kinda funny I'm building this at the start of summer lol but I've kinda reached critical mass on my storage of adult coke cans I'm going to punch out each end and form them into tubes, spray them matt black, lay them up in a box under the glass... duct the top into the shop, the convection current as the air heats should pump the hot air into the shop.... this is intended as a test piece to play with things, toying with the idea of using a cheap solar cell to power a computer fan to improve draw, also the effect of turbulance in the tubes (leaving more ragged edges where each can joins), length of the tubes etc Bought a new toy..... a Suzuki DR650 going to set it up to do some adventure riding. Did alot of reading and tried a few differnt bikes before I chose this one. It's not quite what i want but its the best to build into what I want..... Had it out for a nice sunday ride with a couple of mates... its a bit of a learning curve remembering how to ride on road, been over 25yrs A nice tractor of a motor, she is a fun ride even on the road but the front forks have to go and the headlight windscreen is worse than useless it directs the air up at my helmet So been doing some research to swop out the front forks for a set of Upside Down Forks from a Yamaha WR450 once I've got the forks sorted I'll make up a new fairing headlight... have a bit of a play at aerodynamics 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De Ranged Posted November 8, 2020 Author Share Posted November 8, 2020 Done alot of cleaning, been sorting out all the old motors, gearbox's and mechanical stuff I had stashed away..... almost all of it there is nothing wrong with it... I just can't remember what they are from lol, 4 scrap runs and 2 tip runs The test solar air heater is progressing Carving out the ends of the cans is very tedious.... I'll be able to put it out and test heat output difference between the different methods I've used to hollow the cans out " I'm really hoping there is little difference or that the method that removes the least material from teh cans is the best lol Talking with a local shop owner, I've ended up with another "help out" project, a KP60 toyota starlett.... Its a memorial project from a mate that has floundered, the panel and paint has been done it just needs put back together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnoK Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 I don't know if it will work on beer cans, but I often open cans by lightly grinding the rolled over lip of the lid flange. The top comes off cleanly and all it needs is a light run over to de burr the edges. The bottoms will be a different story... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De Ranged Posted November 9, 2020 Author Share Posted November 9, 2020 12 hours ago, JohnnoK said: I don't know if it will work on beer cans, but I often open cans by lightly grinding the rolled over lip of the lid flange. The top comes off cleanly and all it needs is a light run over to de burr the edges. The bottoms will be a different story... The top is very light I can cut them out easily with a box cutter, I've tried a number of different patterns and knives to cut it.... a hole saw just bites and crumples the can Been thinking how a can has enough structure in its side to take my weight standin on it..... I might be able to build some sort of punch setup that you drop it in and a set of knives. I need to know what shape to build too Had a bit of fun last night coming home from the workshop 231mm of rain yesterday.... when I went to leave the bonnet of the ute went underwater so turned around and parked up at the shed and got my bike.... pouring rain and I'm on the bike lol, got out onto the street my feet are soaked but all good then I discovered there is a section of the street that is lower (never noticed that before) I used to ride rivers when I was younger so as the water got to the seat height I wound the power on to force a bow wave and keep the seat out of the water..... catch is that sheets the water up off the front wheel at me lol up till then I was thinking I should get a pic of how deep 50m later the street came up.... enough to let me slow down, about level with a car that had been abandoned in the road guessing it was hydraulic'd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 1 hour ago, De Ranged said: The top is very light I can cut them out easily with a box cutter, I've tried a number of different patterns and knives to cut it.... a hole saw just bites and crumples the can Been thinking how a can has enough structure in its side to take my weight standin on it..... I might be able to build some sort of punch setup that you drop it in and a set of knives. I need to know what shape to build too Had a bit of fun last night coming home from the workshop 231mm of rain yesterday.... when I went to leave the bonnet of the ute went underwater so turned around and parked up at the shed and got my bike.... pouring rain and I'm on the bike lol, got out onto the street my feet are soaked but all good then I discovered there is a section of the street that is lower (never noticed that before) I used to ride rivers when I was younger so as the water got to the seat height I wound the power on to force a bow wave and keep the seat out of the water..... catch is that sheets the water up off the front wheel at me lol up till then I was thinking I should get a pic of how deep 50m later the street came up.... enough to let me slow down, about level with a car that had been abandoned in the road guessing it was hydraulic'd I reckon tickling the top edge with a grinder will work. That leaves you an opening to punch the lower out through Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 On 11/10/2020 at 8:01 AM, De Ranged said: The top is very light I can cut them out easily with a box cutter, I've tried a number of different patterns and knives to cut it.... a hole saw just bites and crumples the can Been thinking how a can has enough structure in its side to take my weight standin on it..... I might be able to build some sort of punch setup that you drop it in and a set of knives. I need to know what shape to build too Had a bit of fun last night coming home from the workshop 231mm of rain yesterday.... when I went to leave the bonnet of the ute went underwater so turned around and parked up at the shed and got my bike.... pouring rain and I'm on the bike lol, got out onto the street my feet are soaked but all good then I discovered there is a section of the street that is lower (never noticed that before) I used to ride rivers when I was younger so as the water got to the seat height I wound the power on to force a bow wave and keep the seat out of the water..... catch is that sheets the water up off the front wheel at me lol up till then I was thinking I should get a pic of how deep 50m later the street came up.... enough to let me slow down, about level with a car that had been abandoned in the road guessing it was hydraulic'd Yeah, I thought it was a bit wet on this side of the hill but you had as much in an hour as we had in a day! Well done for escaping... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De Ranged Posted November 10, 2020 Author Share Posted November 10, 2020 Got all the cans done, glued in and painted so put it out to test (I've left the glass off so the heat trapped under this doesn't effect measurement of the can/tubes) I set it up at about the ideal for solar panel light collection (40 degrees off horizontal, for my latitude), I was measuring with an IR thermometer (have some issues with certian surfaces) I took measurements randomly over the day from air temps 26 C to 15 C and sun shine varied from bright and strong to overcast and cloudy I measured the surface temp of the top cans in each tube and some metal blocks I placed accross the end of the tubes (so I could measure the exiting air temp of each style of tube) I didn't bother to record temps I was looking for which was most efficent and trends The surprising thing was the winner wasn't the tubes with the most interferance and slowest air flow, it was the tubes with the single tab as each join that was bent like a propeller blade (closest in the bottom pic) The open tubes while having the hotest suface temp were roughly 20% less air temp, the middle ones that I just cut and bent the bottom and top (middle bunch of tubes) I think restricted the air flow the interesting bit was the surface temp was 10% less than the open tubes but 10% more than the winning option.... maybe with a fan drawing air through there maybe a gain with this option At its hotest 26 C air temp and full sun the surface temp was 48 C on the open tubes (the hotest surface temp, but the black colour gave me trouble with the IR thermometer got results from 58-35 C when measuring that, but I take the most consistant of 4 or 5 measurements) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De Ranged Posted November 10, 2020 Author Share Posted November 10, 2020 7 minutes ago, deep said: Yeah, I thought it was a bit wet on this side of the hill but you had as much in an hour as we had in a day! Well done for escaping... Was a fun little adventure lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De Ranged Posted November 10, 2020 Author Share Posted November 10, 2020 23 hours ago, landroversforever said: I reckon tickling the top edge with a grinder will work. That leaves you an opening to punch the lower out through That makes alot more sense lol sometimes the blinders drop down and you miss the obvious.... Now to make a frame to hold this and a couple more..... Haveing to put on wet riding gear to ride into the shop yesterday I had a bit of an idea to do with this air heater lol So I can hang these up by the door..... That will hold the jacket open so I can blow warm air up in there to dry them out Time to go build some alloy bits for my bike, really enjoying riding 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De Ranged Posted November 19, 2020 Author Share Posted November 19, 2020 I've been welding up alloy bits for my bike.... finished the first round of this so decide instead of sitting on the half full bottle of gas I'll use it up and return it to BOC (there rental costs are a bit painfull lol) So I setup to weld the wheel scales 6mm and 10mm alloy.... Doing the outside corners, so I setup for a horizontal weld (I'm pushing the limit of material with my 200amp Tig so not even going to attempt to do this vertical ) wind my poor Tig up to 200amps, do a practice pass all good..... stand on the peddle, Damm this is loud!, I'm holding there heating waiting for the sparkles (the oxide) to clear and form a shinny pool.... because I'm in a 90 degree fillet the arc is focusing on one side or the other, so I move the tungston deep in the fillet (I'm a mm... 2mm off either side now), beauty..... the pool is starting to form on both sides..... there we go..... right time to bridge the pools accross so start to wobble the torch and break the surface tension and wick the two pools into one...... PHSTTTT.... Bugger dipped the tip. Im just too shakky lol do another practice run and yep the weight of the cable is enough to shake me.... so grab the mig and I now have a steady for my wrist Right grind the tip, set back up and I'm looking at the weld area there's a bit of that blackish oxide so grab the die grinder and whip the surface off..... with the airmuffs on I noticed my ears ringing, damm this welder is loud! grab some ear plugs All good way we go.... things just arn't working right the pool is building up to one side, filler rod is melting back and dragging the molten material out of the pool.... its been a while since I've welded at this level must be my technique... so play with torch angle/height things improve but still not working right.... I'm a couple of corners in. They are welded lol just not nice I've played with my technique to the point I know its not that so I stop and check the settings..... change my AC balance a little bit, it is a slight improvement but still not right. I've finished all 4 corners on one of the scales now so I stop to change scale covers and noticed theres alot of condensation on the regulator..... what the!..... the flow gauge is max'd..... one of my mates lol, has wound it right in, it took a couple of turns to get the needle off 30Lpm..... dial it back to 8Lpm and I'm no artist lol but thats good enough..... oh and changed my mind on doing full welds on the inside braces becasue of the thickness of material its sucking the heat out of the weld so the welding is very slow.... I've got enough material it should be plenty strong enough for the leverage .... time will tell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De Ranged Posted May 5, 2021 Author Share Posted May 5, 2021 Back in my workshop...... Covid kept me in Australia, got talked into going over to help out work, plan was a 10 week stint (including the 2 weeks of isolation in a hotel when I returned to NZ) I'd previously handed my notice due to the Covid restrictions on travel lol..... Almost 5 months later I'm home! Couldn't get a booking in a covid hotel in NZ, no booking no flight.... but I'm home and repeatedly told work not again! So going to take some time off and do some stuff in the shed.... with staying away in hotels I watched too much Youtube lol really shouldn't watch that sort of thing I get ideas 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 What have you got lined up then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De Ranged Posted May 6, 2021 Author Share Posted May 6, 2021 Training up a new apprentice..... I'll start with training her to find the veniers, then move onto the 10mm spanner No lol this is one of the new ideas..... got more coming Going to finish off a few things around the shop first, just little things that have been annoying me and I have the potential to over engineer lol about to take the bike in there now so I'll throw up some pic's later tonight when I finish the design on the foundry 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De Ranged Posted May 6, 2021 Author Share Posted May 6, 2021 Had a productive afternoon, the 109" is now up on stands.... with it sitting in storage I didn't want the tyres forming a memory in the sidewalls from sitting all this time in one spot so... Nice n simple they hold the tyres about 2"s in the air... made from my offcuts pile and a small amount from my steel rack While I was at it I finished off a parts trolly/storage rack, with doing the work away stuff I start something mechanical, get it pulled apart, workout whats wrong and a solution and then I've had to go to work.... my memory isn't very good and often when I come back I have a jigsaw puzzle of parts spread over things and a general idea so I end up loosing alot of time while I puzzle out the jigsaw of parts.... as well as loosing time I also seem to loose bolts, even if I don't go near it bolts seem to disapear? So the idea with these trolleys is everything goes onto the trolley in organizer tubs, they get stacked in order, there will be whiteboard markers on the trolley so I can right notes on the tubs as well and they are on casters so if parts are slow or I have to do something else... I can trundle them under a bench so hopefully bolts don't disapear lol Didn't get this one painted till after dark so Pic's tomorrow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De Ranged Posted May 7, 2021 Author Share Posted May 7, 2021 Trolley is finished lol..... and in use, I already want to modify it 🙄 All made from offcuts or recycled steel.... arghhh don't look to closely at the mesh in the bottom lol I got sick of welding it and it got a little in-accurate The mods that will happen later, the repurposed casters might be on the small side, as they arn't turning any longer lol, and I want to add a hook at each end opposite the marker pen for a roll of tape (so I can tape things in order or groups eg push rods and rockers) Going to modify this as well... a little tool stand I made so I wouldn't rest tools on the projects as I work Heres a little tip for anyone with a bandsaw, the 4 legs are rammed full of the swarf from the bandsaw... makes it weighty and stable even when its further up (when I'm on a step working in a 4wd engine bay)..... problem is when a socket sets on there I'm running out of space Might add some can holders to the side for lub, brakeclean n beverage.... add some hooks for hammers etc and another short depth shelf under it Also got this lot finished so I now have somewhere dry my riding pants Not that I need this we are having a very mild winter.... I'm not even wearing them 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 I missed loads of this ! That jacket and helmet rack are work of art ! Fabulous. Those cans cracked me up 😂 have you done any more on the heater ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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