Anderzander Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 This is thinking ahead - and (I confess) maybe daydreaming a bit inspired by the video of those old small wheeled jeeps in Moab with lockers ... I’ve been wondering about options for my 80” - I’m running Rover P4 4.3’s in it, and I’ve already had one fall to bits. It would be nice to get some nice diffs built up - and it would be lovely to have an Ashcroft ATB in there (front and back) - but I think they are only available in 24 spline favour.... Well I wouldn’t want to try changing the tracta joints ... So that would mean I could use the Ashcroft rear series shaft conversion to have one in the back - but that led me to think ‘would I mind air and lockers’: I guess I could have some old 10 spline arbs built into front and rear diffs - or mix and match - with a 10 spline in the front and the Ashcroft 24 spline shafts in the rear with say an Ash locker in the rear ... Im gentle with the throttle, have small wheels, so it’s not out and out strength I’m thinking of - it’s just traction ... What would anyone else do ? Any opinions, thoughts or wisdom welcomed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneandtwo Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 I’ve just treated my Lightweight to a ten spline Quaife ATB for the rear axle; not yet fitted it though as need crown wheel spacer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 That’s interesting - could you share or point me to any details on them please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 I fitted ARB 10 spline air lockers to my series 3 lightweight about 25 years ago been good reliable kit the additional traction is fantastic mine may come up for sale once portal project done as if all good shouldn't need them but that will be a wee while yet regards Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverik Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 Hmmmm atb's...... Should look at Xcess differentials or give them (Nige) a ring, they get all sorts of interesting stuff in the pre loved section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneandtwo Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 16 minutes ago, Anderzander said: That’s interesting - could you share or point me to any details on them please? It’s the QDF12K. https://shop.quaife.co.uk/land-rover-range-rover-quaife-atb-helical-lsd-differential 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 10 minutes ago, Stellaghost said: I fitted ARB 10 spline air lockers to my series 3 lightweight about 25 years ago been good reliable kit the additional traction is fantastic mine may come up for sale once portal project done as if all good shouldn't need them but that will be a wee while yet regards Stephen I might drop you a pm about that please... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 10 minutes ago, Maverik said: Hmmmm atb's...... Should look at Xcess differentials or give them (Nige) a ring, they get all sorts of interesting stuff in the pre loved section. I did think of speaking to Nige - but as it’s realistically a while before I’d be spending money .. I don’t want to take up his time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Member Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 (edited) You can get Truetracs in 10 spline. MUCH cheaper than Quaife. 910A400 rear, 910A416 front. Edited July 28, 2020 by Red90 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzar Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Red90 said: You can get Truetracs in 10 spline. MUCH cheaper than Quaife. 910A400 rear, 910A416 front. That's what I went for, got them cheap as someone was upgrading to 24 spline. With EN26 shafts and pegged diffs, with a mildly tuned 4 cylinder, series box, on 7.50 tyres, they should be more than adequate. I might need them in the mountains..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 It’s the mountains I’m thinking of ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, Red90 said: You can get Truetracs in 10 spline. MUCH cheaper than Quaife. 910A400 rear, 910A416 front. Thank you ! I’ll have a look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 The cheapest I have found Trutracs in the UK is at the Land Rover Centre in Speke. I think Daan has or had some and spoke well of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 On 7/28/2020 at 10:06 PM, Anderzander said: I might drop you a pm about that please... Hi Stephen Dropped you one back don,t know if you got it apologies if you did regards Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted July 30, 2020 Author Share Posted July 30, 2020 Ooo thanks Stephen !! I’ll have a look 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 On 7/29/2020 at 12:33 AM, oneandtwo said: I’ve just treated my Lightweight to a ten spline Quaife ATB for the rear axle; not yet fitted it though as need crown wheel spacer Ashcroft make the spacer rings, and they’re pretty cheap. Should be the right size as all aftermarket diff manufacturers would have to make their units to match the Rover dimensions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneandtwo Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Snagger said: Ashcroft make the spacer rings, and they’re pretty cheap. Should be the right size as all aftermarket diff manufacturers would have to make their units to match the Rover dimensions. Yep, just not got round to ordering one yet along with new diff bearings and bolts. I have an Ashcroft ATB in rear of my 90 and is excellent on sand so thought I’d bung one in the Lightweight too. Edited July 31, 2020 by oneandtwo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Idris Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 I was thinking... but I didn’t because I sold the rangy KAM axel complete... that my 88 is 40hp and I could take later half shafts, cut them down and hand grind the six hub splines on. Which is a bit cruel, but they take a V8 for most silliness, so I figured I could take some extreme liberties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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