Heated Rear Glass

[Anderzander]

My 90 has a heated rear light with the circuit to run the high level brake light.

The brake light has been run by a separate wire for ages, and the window now has hardly any heated elements working too.

So I can replace it …

Or perhaps a standard heated window and fit an LED brake light of some description…

Or try to find the many damaged parts of the element and overpaint them with some of that copper/silver paint…

Any recommendations or suggestions ? 

 

replacement part for reference :

https://www.bearmach.com/product/tailgate-glass-boglgltg/rear-tailgate-glass-cqb000270/CQB000270

[western]

This rear door glass heated & rear high level brake light for a pre Td5 vehicle CQB101560 

https://www.sp-4x4.com/CQB101560_HEATED_DEFENDER_GLASS_p/cqb101560.htm

the one you linked to is for the later rear door with glass secured with a rubber seal.

[soutie]

Have a look on ebay first.  I bought my pre td5 heated glass and high-level brake light from SP4x4 off ebay as it was cheaper than off their website, even before adding carriage to their website price. The same is true for their door window glass channel kits. Not sure why their website is more expensive than ebay?

[Snagger]

I installed a slimline LED unit here https://www.nickslandrover.co.uk/getting-noticed/ .  Has the benefits of blocking less of the screen, being on separate electrical circuits, being much cheaper and using LEDs so should last longer.  It came from S-V-C.co.uk .

[oneandtwo]

On my Puma whoever designed the circuit on the glass routed it under the rear brake light plastic cover so the cover itself actually cut through the circuit and stopped the light and top element section working. The circuit was redesigned midway through the Puma production to prevent this, I have a replacement glass from SP which from memory was a copy of the later circuit revision (still wrapped up awaiting me doing anything with it!)

[Peaklander]

Some useful information in that link provided at the top by @Anderzander - 

Description

The general function of a window is to allow light to access the vehicle's cabin as well as allowing external visibility from the cabin. It also provides means of air circulation when required.

[Anderzander]

2 hours ago, oneandtwo said:

On my Puma whoever designed the circuit on the glass routed it under the rear brake light plastic cover so the cover itself actually cut through the circuit and stopped the light and top element section working. The circuit was redesigned midway through the Puma production to prevent this, I have a replacement glass from SP which from memory was a copy of the later circuit revision (still wrapped up awaiting me doing anything with it!)

The cover has done that on mine too. I have heard of people putting a felt tape under it to stop it happening. I didn’t know about the circuit revision though, which sounds great.

Mine is a 2001 - but a 2002 model year, must have been a very early one. And it doesn’t look like SP offer the glass for that model… 🤔

[Nonimouse]

I need a replacement rear windscreen. I've tried silver and copper paint - no joy. It's old and knackered. The nice people from Autoglass are coming to replace it for me, and the nice people at NFU are paying for most of it. It'll be a D2 version, so I've bought a nice LED hi-level brakelight to fit 

[Snagger]

8 hours ago, oneandtwo said:

On my Puma whoever designed the circuit on the glass routed it under the rear brake light plastic cover so the cover itself actually cut through the circuit and stopped the light and top element section working. The circuit was redesigned midway through the Puma production to prevent this, I have a replacement glass from SP which from memory was a copy of the later circuit revision (still wrapped up awaiting me doing anything with it!)

The same was true of my wife’s then three year old Puma when we bought it, needing a new rear screen under warranty.  It’s a terrible design that requires frequent replacements or a mod.

[Retroanaconda]

I considered a high level brake light but couldn’t really see the benefit, so I just went for the heated screen and will wire that in when I get around to it. 

[Anderzander]

Can’t see the benefit ? 

[Peaklander]

I have one, in a new later rear door and I am happy that I think I can be seen - better 🤭 One of the studs on the glass was loose and I had to re-bond it. I bought the lamp and the adapter thing to change the mounting angle, from the JLR Classic parts website, as their prices were as good as anywhere.

[oneandtwo]

7 hours ago, Snagger said:

The same was true of my wife’s then three year old Puma when we bought it, needing a new rear screen under warranty.  It’s a terrible design that requires frequent replacements or a mod.

First photo shows the original, the second is the revised version which has the tracks re-routed and can be distinguished by the heater element skirting around the light position.

 

[Retroanaconda]

21 hours ago, Anderzander said:

Can’t see the benefit ? 

Yeah. I suppose in traffic it might help where the rear lights are obscured by other vehicles, but in normal conditions the two normal lights should do the job well enough I reckon.