geoffbeaumont Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 I'm planning later this year to pull our shed down and rebuild it. Plan is a fairly straightforward wooden structure. It'll have OSB walls which I could just paint, but in the interests of longevity of rather clad it. Then I started pricing it up - and realised at current prices it'd cost more than the rest of the shed, even for "cheap" and nasty softwood or UPVC. The current shed and garage are wood frames with pebble dashed fibre cement panels, which actually look pretty decent painted and have stood the test of time (if not the tendency of previous owners to hack holes in them). But I can't find anything remotely like this for sale, only much fancier panels. Am I searching for the wrong thing, or is nothing like this made any more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 You can get fibre cement cladding boards … but that is not that much of a cheap option either. 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbeaumont Posted May 13, 2023 Author Share Posted May 13, 2023 8 hours ago, Anderzander said: You can get fibre cement cladding boards … but that is not that much of a cheap option either. 🤔 Exactly - the ones you can get are much fancier than what I'm after, and not cheap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 Instead of replacing my shed with a wooden one in bought a concrete prefab garage off eBay for £1 (already dismantled, buyer collects). I reconfigured the shape put a new roof on and painted it. All in, including some concrete to extend the current base (no car ever going in so didn't need to be as thick) it cost me about £500. Before After Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbeaumont Posted May 13, 2023 Author Share Posted May 13, 2023 I had a concrete prefab garage a couple of houses back - a mite chilly in the winter, but a good solid building with decent space inside. Unfortunately the shed is a bit awkward, as I need fairly precise dimensions to replace what's there without violating planning regs (or at least, without requiring planning permission) - it's next to the boundary, so need to stay under the 2.5m limit, but also has a lean to conservatory on one end which means I need the gable high enough to clear that. I'd make the shed side easier if I built a custom greenhouse, but I've gone the other way round and I'm using an off the shelf greenhouse. The existing ones were both custom built from the look of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason110 Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 Nothing is cheap with building materials. I’ve just built the boss a garden office. 4.5 x3.5 clad in UPVC fortex cladding and it cost £1500 alone. Try going to local builders merchant and seeing if they have anything on offer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De Ranged Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 I don't know if it would help but I went around the commercial roofers (the ones doing big industrial roofing projects) when they re-roof they often sell the old iron to scrap metal dealers, I got enough good material to clad a 12m x 12m shed and 100m of fence for a bit more than scrap price...... catch was I had to take all the material, that was 4, 6 wheeler loads to scrap and 2 weeks of cutting long run lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 Would look a bit agricultural - but I wonder if box or corrugated roofing sheets would be a cheaper option? They are the sort of thing you might find some secondhand or left over locally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbekko Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 Metal roofing sheets would be my call. Get some with insulation attached to them to reduce noise and have some insulation in the shed as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 i use the steel box roofing sheets for my log store roofs i get it from forgales who i found were the best suppliers of new panels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbeaumont Posted May 14, 2023 Author Share Posted May 14, 2023 Part of the shed is actually built from steel box roofing sheets at the moment (weirdly just the walls - the roof of that bit is tiled, but badly). It looks somewhat industrial, though. You can get the same sheet flat, though, which might work. Would look much the same as just painting the OSB, but much more durable. Haven't priced it up yet, but think it should work out more realistic. Been too busy on a beekeeping course today (we've just got a hive). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 If you need a lift with anything Geoff - don’t hesitate to give me a shout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbekko Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 10 hours ago, geoffbeaumont said: Haven't priced it up yet, but think it should work out more realistic. There's a company near me that specialises in plates like that. They have a decent stock of lightly damaged / returned plates, at less than half price. I grabbed some of those when I made a roof for the dog shed. Was it overkill the give the dog shed roof 6cm of insulation? Yes, but the price was right You might have similar companies close to you. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbeaumont Posted May 15, 2023 Author Share Posted May 15, 2023 17 hours ago, Anderzander said: If you need a lift with anything Geoff - don’t hesitate to give me a shout. Cheers, I'll bear that in mind! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbeaumont Posted May 15, 2023 Author Share Posted May 15, 2023 8 hours ago, elbekko said: There's a company near me that specialises in plates like that. They have a decent stock of lightly damaged / returned plates, at less than half price. I grabbed some of those when I made a roof for the dog shed. Was it overkill the give the dog shed roof 6cm of insulation? Yes, but the price was right You might have similar companies close to you. It's certainly worth investigating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Poore Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 @geoffbeaumont I'm being a bit thick - are you after something for the roof or something for the walls? It's worth having a hunt around in the local area for sawmills etc. (as an example) because sometimes you can be pleasantly surprised. When I built a stable last summer I naively assumed that given I have a trade account with two local builders merchants (and they at least say that I get a good discount because in the three years I've been here I've put a substantial sum through them). Rough indications when planning / pricing up was that the studwork / ply kick-boards was going to be ~£1k, ship-lap or feather-edge cladding about £2k and then about £1k for the box-profile sheets for the roof (for a 6x4.4m stable). Got quotes with the local builders merchants and they knocked stuff down to ~£700 for the studwork & ply, the cladding was going to be ~£1.5k and the anti-con roof sheets (from National Cladding in Ammanford) was £900ish. Anyway for a bit of a punt I phoned Pete Gregor who runs a small sawmill in the village and he popped up to have a quick look and quoted £900 to supply 3/4" Douglas Fir cladding (about 9-12" wide) dropped off. To say I bit his hand off was an understatement, cheaper than the bog standard carp stuff from the builders merchant and far superior quality cut to order. He even cut some 2x2" lengths to trim the corners and joints. Moral of the story - don't forget the small guys... He even dropped up two bulk bags of sawdust today for bedding, bunged him a few quid for bringing it up - he did say it was FOC if we'd collected but as I knew he had a transit tipper and Merlo at the yard I was expecting him to just dump a bucket or two in the back rather than bag it all up. Anyway a picture of the finished article. And yes I know that's a 6t tractor trailer behind the Range Rover - I'd normally have moved it with the JCB but it's poorly at the moment. The little New Holland 1220 tractor did sterling work extracting it initially but even with the missus standing on the front-weights it was still pulling wheelies so something a bit more substantial was required. The RR lost out because it had a lower tow bar than the Defender but did make light work of moving the trailer for a deep clean of the stable yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superpants Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 I've now built three sheds where I have used fencing feather edge boards. They are fairly reasonably priced if bought from a specialist fencing supplier- The one I use is quoting £1.69 per board at 1.8m x 22mm x 125mm. With a 25mm overlap that comes out at less that £10/sqm. If you go this route I would recommend using a membrane behind it. This the latest shed project during the build 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbeaumont Posted May 18, 2023 Author Share Posted May 18, 2023 Definitely worth looking into local places (I'd rather put business their way anyway). Got a bit of saving to do before we can start this, unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbeaumont Posted May 2 Author Share Posted May 2 So, this is finally in progress - can't find any photo's of the old shed at the moment, but I've taken a few as the new one has gone up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbeaumont Posted May 2 Author Share Posted May 2 Finished up going with a steel box section roof and feather edge cladding - the later from a local saw mill (Fox), which worked out fairly reasonable - about £670 for heavy duty 170mm boards. Could have had lighter 150mm boards a couple of hundred cheaper, but due to both the height and shorter lengths they came in would have been a lot more work and a lot more mid run joints. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve200TDi Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 Nice work! What's the plan for this shed/workshop? tools, storage... I'll be building my shed next week! Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbeaumont Posted May 3 Author Share Posted May 3 Storage, garden shed, potters wheel and kiln will be going in there but won't be usable until I get round to running some services. I'll probably store some of the materials from my workshop up there for now too, as it'll be dry which my workshop isn't It's been designed to be flexible - the slab is an uneven mess in sections that aren't sealed, so I'm putting in a DPC with an insulted chipboard floor over it, and the roof will be insulated too. Walls won't be, but they have space to add insulation later (just unscrew the OSB lining). So it can be anything from a garden shed to a summer house, workshop or home office depending what we need in the future. I don't plan on doing this job again... It's just got the one window and french doors - but the frame is built to take a smaller door and another window at the other end, so if we want to partition it into separate garden shed and something else that's easy to do. Left them out at this point to save money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 That looks great ! 😊 Can I be cheeky .. what’s the total cost for it? I know timber is a lot more than it used to be, which now I think about it is has led me to presume it’s unaffordable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbeaumont Posted May 3 Author Share Posted May 3 It's going to be not much short of £5k - that's just materials, and built on an existing slab, albeit with a bit of work to level the sides up. So no, not cheap - but half the old one was unusable, and the other half deteriorating fast. I'm dreading to think what it'll cost to do the garage 😕 Suspect that's going to need some serious saving. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason110 Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 (edited) Nothing is cheap. I built the other half a home office last year. It’s a 3.5 mtr by 4.5 mtr building. Concrete slab with DPM, then c24 4x2 used to frame and for the ceilings. Rubber roof with 100 mm insulation in the roof. 50mm insulation on the floor and 75mm insulation in the walls. Clad with fortex cladding. No change from 10k. No labour. Just dad, brother and I. IMG_5531.heic Edited May 3 by jason110 Uploaded from an iPhone. Not sure if anyone can see the photo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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