Peter Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 Got a local land owner, just put in for a 4x4 off road site on a patch of land (London Green belt land). Site is about 14 acres, with out any water or trees - think he might just be going through all the options in the land development list, myself. But assuming for a moment, he's serious. Is 14 acres a viable area to build an enjoyable off road site ? And if so how many vehicle would make it packed ? Are there any smaller public off-road sites anywhere. Sorry forgot to mention on a small patch of this site he wants to stick 4 gypsy vans. Public meeting on Thursday, so want other thoughts on this. Cheers Peter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugwash Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 with a digger you can do just about anything- 14 acres is pretty small, but i reckon you could fit a couple of courses into it for training or similar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
general-confusion Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 I believe Devils pit is about 60 acres and when you know all the routes and have a decent truck you could get round the lot in 20 mins providing you dont get stuck behind any muppets in 20 year old jap carp , cars on street tyres or £200 rangies that think the drag link is a recovery point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 we have 8 acres of fields and that would be far too small for a decent site 14 sounds the same way, to be viable unless it is steep/tree lined you'd still cover it all in a very short time then again the adventure4x4 site is very very small (pretty U/S too IMHO) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dred90 Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 Woodlands 4x4 is only 19 acres woodlands I suppose it depends on the amount of vehicles you let onto the site.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted April 24, 2007 Author Share Posted April 24, 2007 Woodlands 4x4 is only 19 acreswoodlands I suppose it depends on the amount of vehicles you let onto the site.. Yes I know woodlands very well, and know they have reduced their limit to 80 vehicles, as it gets gridlock in there with that many. Would have said woodlands is bigger, as have got tyre wash area at exit, and somewhere to park trailered vehicles - perhaps woods are 14 acres, but going to be well boring on a open field with no trees. And is 5 miles from Woodlands - so know which ford everyone will go to for a wash. http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...&q=eynsford Bures is massive, so is Grand Canyon and Slindon, woodlands and Flimwell being lesser so. Interesting points. Will wait to see what daylight forum'ers have to say too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LS26 Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 don't know if this is even possible, but the thought struck me: 1. apply for permission for a motocross track (rejected) 2. apply for permission for an offroad play site (rejected) 3. apply for permission for a gypsy camp (rejected) 4. apply for permission for housing.... <phew!> eerm ok then Bingo - value of land increases 500 times... and that was the aim all along. Or am I being cynical? Rog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honitonhobbit Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 David Bowyers off raod training site is only just 10 acres and you could play there... But he did shift 20K tonnes of soil/spoil/rock to build it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 If Devil's pit is 60 acres and that's really small then 14 acres isn't going to be a lot of cop ! Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
istruggle2gate11 Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 If Devil's pit is 60 acres and that's really small then 14 acres isn't going to be a lot of cop !Mo Thats about the size of Kirtons car parking for spectators! IMHO It would be a one hit wonder or handy local proving ground, you would soon get bored with 14 acres or else get very busy with a 360° on a weekly basis. Another measure, is that we have 500 acres Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top90 Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 Would be OK for clubs to go trialling if you got a digger in there. Many clubs hire small patches of land for monthly events, and with trialling you generally only have one or two cars going at the same time while the others watch. Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickm Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 Rochford is only 14 acres + the parking area still plenty to do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBMUD Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 Gotwick Wood is/was very small, less than 14 acres IIRC, but people used to turn up month after month... Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonr Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 It all depends IMHO on how much effort the operator is prepared to put in with a digger. 14 Acres could be fantastic - but could also be very boring! Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigster Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 gotwick was great I thought... plenty to scare yourself silly with.. almost a mini version of hastings.. Gotwick Wood is/was very small, less than 14 acres IIRC, but people used to turn up month after month... Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will_warne Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 Would be OK for clubs to go trialling if you got a digger in there.Many clubs hire small patches of land for monthly events, and with trialling you generally only have one or two cars going at the same time while the others watch. Rich I'd agree. I've done trials on sites that are about 4-5 acres but they'd be terrible for anything but trials. IMHO 14 acres might be OK but it'd be a huge amount of work and it'd be unlikely to regenerate the revenue that'd be sunk into it let alone make a profit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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