Brookers Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 Took the arch liner out of the o/s front wing of my RR yesterday to reveal corrosion at every point where the plastic liner clips to metal, not a surprise, but who thought that adding yet another trap for dirt was a good idea when the inner wings are a known weak spot on range rovers? Got me thinking, what have you found that made you shake your head then wish physicall violence on the designer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickm Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 Got me thinking, what have you found that made you shake your head then wish physicall violence on the designer my trainers will get the hang of the laces one day i suppose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 What Idiot Designed this? Weren't me Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landmannnn Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 I think Bill Gates takes first prize. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Pad Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 Land Rovers - designed by idiots, built by morons, driven by people who ought to know better. Every time I set out to repair anything on mine I end up having to fix at least 1 other thing because of bad design/rubbish materials/cheap parts (delete as appropriate). Paddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 Land Rovers - designed by idiots, built by morons, driven by people who ought to know better.Every time I set out to repair anything on mine I end up having to fix at least 1 other thing because of bad design/rubbish materials/cheap parts (delete as appropriate). Paddy Nothing to do with the people that built it then Paddy ? MO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 I think it's more often than not the accountants at fault: "This part is pretty reliable, let's see if we can make it cheaper!" Prime example: Plastic head dowels on the K-series, must save 1p per engine and I can't believe any actual engineer would think it's a good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimAttrill Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 And the plastic plugs in V8 radiators and Tdi engines/radiators which have caused innumerable engines to overheat. LR then went on to use the plugs in Disco II diffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shackleton Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 Mild steel anything... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt B Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 It's not stupidity, it is built in obsolescence. Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 I've got a good one: Ford can galvanise a complete Focus bodyshell but Land Rover can't galvanise a chassis or bulkhead Oh and bolting steel and aluminium together so they eat each other, very smooth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruuman Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 how about retaining the same useless axle and diff combination for the last 50+ years, knowing it was weak when you started but upping the power every few years anyway! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 I've got a good one: Ford can galvanise a complete Focus bodyshell but Land Rover can't galvanise a chassis or bulkheadOh and bolting steel and aluminium together so they eat each other, very smooth Do they really galvanise the shell FF or do they make it out of zintec and call it galvanised ? Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 Do they really galvanise the shell FF or do they make it out of zintec and call it galvanised ? Does it matter - Land Rover don't do either of those, and either would be a massive improvement! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 Well, I was just curious since the vans I used to work on were all zintec. I would imagine that Land Rover are using zintec on the front doors and the rear door and probably on the bulkhead now that it's been reworked for the 07 model. I can't really imagine any manufacturer not using zintec on exterior sheet assemblies in this day and age. They certainly wouldn't use it on the chassis because of the amount of co2 welding would negate the protection and would cause the obvious health hazards involved in co2 welding zinc plating. I personally think defenders are bloody expensive enough new without adding the cost of galvanising the chassis to the vehicle cost but I think it would be good if it were on the options list for those who were planning long term ownership. Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 <cynicism>If they made them that well... they would never sell another vehicle</cynicism> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shackleton Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 Ah it's not really fair to give out about the whole alu / steel thing seeing as the LR's were using Alu long before most... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 Do they really galvanise the shell FF or do they make it out of zintec and call it galvanised ?Mo isnt that why they call some of them 'zetec's ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philj Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 I personally think defenders are bloody expensive enough new without adding the cost of galvanising the chassis to the vehicle cost but I think it would be good if it were on the options list for those who were planning long term ownership.Mo I would pay an extra £1000+ as option for a galvanized chassis - and I'm sure in years to come it would retain extra resale value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B reg 90 Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 It's not just limited to landys - Fiats are guff of the highest order. I had a Fiat Tipo, the plastic dash was so badly finished the edge of the plastic would skin the edge of a finger every time you used the bonnet release catch.... each time it did it I would have cheerfully run over the t*****r that was responsible for it. Adrian The only redeming feature was the loverly 2 liter 16V engine and the fantastic exhaust note. However they made an arse of that as well as the exhaust was only available from Fiat as the 2 liter was only fitted to ~ 500 cars. In this time they managed to fit 3 different non interchangable exhausts. Mine was one of the ones that used the 2nd version. According to the Fiat dealer only fitted to 50 cars - 'We can get it specialy made in italy sir' was the offer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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